Genealogy Chat

That's the one, Mike. I know it's down as Jugby in Phillimore's, but I think it's a mistranscription.

" WILL CO " ....Mary O' Italy......

I have it down as 25th May 1767.

Richard Fletcher ~ Ann JUGBY.

at QUORNDON. ....

MIKE xx
( Is it National " Richard Day " to day ? )....lol :0))))

Greeting’s again Marian…..

Yes saw that one but was being guided by your remark that you thought they were in some sort of Workhouse / Hostel. ……..

Having now looked at the image return coming under your Ref No.’s

I read the 1841.return as that the Winnett Family were living
within the “ Village “ of Wickhamford Worcestershire .

Advance to the next Census 1851.
Looks like there may have been a split up of the Family
Fanny is down as Head of Household with Thomas, Richard ( Son) & David.

And Richard ( Snr ) is a servant to Samuel Taylor Farmer.
Although the ages did not match up with those of the 1841. Census
But there again the ages were messed around so much on that Census
that we can only take ages as a rough guide

Birth places gained from 1851. census :~
Richard = Snowshill. Gloucestershire.
Fanny = Bengsworthe / Bedgeworth Worcestershire.
Just 18 Miles between them.

MIKE.xx
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Hi Mike,

Could you look up a marriage licence for me when you have time?

Richard Fletcher and Ann Tugby (or Jugby), married by licence in Quorn on 25th May 1767, both OTP.

Thanks a lot,
Mary

Hello again Mike.
The reference is
HO 107/1191/13.
Looks like he was 55
wife Fanny 40
Children John,17 Emma,12 Thomas,10 Robert,7 Richard,4
Margaret and David aged 2years

I think I may have found something that looks like the one, where they were staying."Badsley" houses that no longer exist, see what you think please.
Even going further down this census, the family were not any better off, this was my Dads family.

So sad, I came across another one the other day for someone, this was for Norfolk. 6 pages of paupers.
makes one think how fortunate we are. Thanks Mike

Greeting’s & Welcome Marian. ….

Nice to see you posting on our open forum……

Unfortunately I’m struggling to find the Image of your Richard Winnett & family
On the 1841. Census returns using your details…..

Can you post the Ref No.’s for the 1841. image you wish me to have a look at ?

Or give an age for your Richard.

Thanking you.

MIKE. xx

Greeting’s again. … Caroline

Shackerstone ( the Parish which Elizabeth….. CAME from but married in Belton )
is defiantly in Leicestershire………
Just to the North of Market Bosworth
And left of Barton in the Beans…….

Confusing I know…..:0\....
although it’s only 17 miles from Leicester
It has now a COVENTRY post code…..
And Coventry is 20.4. Miles from Shackerstone.
The Locals are not too pleased I can tell you..

MIKE. xx

Hello Mike
I wonder if you may be able to explain a census I have come across re 1841. My Gr Gr Grandfather Richard Winnett with his family. I do not know if I am right or not , it looks like it may have been a hostel or workhouse where they were, it stated Evesham union. Also at the top of the page of the record it says, about people who stayed that night.
I do manage a lot on my own now as the site F/M/P has made it easier for search now, but I am always grateful for your input. Hope you are keeping well, I know you are as busy as usual. Best wishes Marian Shaw

Hello Mike

Thank you so much for checking the marriage of John and Elizabeth and for the baptism details. It looks like the Halls were in Belton for quite a while. Elizabeth's details said she was married in Shackerstone in Leicester. The only one I can find is in Warwickshire, have the boundaries changed or is this the wrong one?

Thank you again
Caroline xx

Greeting's again........ Elaine

I meant to say the Polebrook House was a Borstal Institute when i delivered the milk back in the 1970's

MIKE. XXX

Greeting’s & welcome Paula. …..

If the walk way had railings each side then it was
St. George’s Parish Church.
Well what you saw is the rebuilt St. George’s Church
The original one burnt down completely 1911.
Along with the Parish records

I believe the Greek Orthodox Church took over the Church.

But I believe they have now moved out…….
And now the Church along with the Odeon site
are now to be incorporated into the New St. George’s Quarter. …

More of our Heritage being lost if the Council have anything to do with it ...:0((((

MIKE.

Have lived in Leicester for 34 years (i'm age 34 by the way) and last saturday we went to a beer festival at the Queen Vic on southampton St down by the mercury offices. We walked down from the ale wagon towards the old odeon. Well i have never noticed the church on the right hand side before (i've not really been in that part of town much) We had the look round the grounds but i couldn't see a name, i'm assuming its the old St Georges- can someone confirm?? What is it used as now??

Hi Mike

I know what you mean! It comes up as Ratby for the 1891 census. I was actually sent the routine they used at Polebrook house with some background info ages ago, will google after dinner
Elaine

Greeting’s again…… Elaine.

Oh that industrial school…….
in Newtown Unthank.

I knew it as Polebrook House when I delivered milk there.

It’s now a retirement Village….( Kirby Grange )

If you goggle….. " Polebrook House "
there is a bit about it along with a photo.

MIKE. xx

Hi Mike

Thank you for looking. About Desford, what I mean is, is it likely that the reference to Desford means he has been sent to the industrial school there. I don't know of any other reason for him to be there and wondered if you knew of any other school/reason he could be there.

If so it look like 2 cousins were there at the same time!!!

Elaine

(¯`*•.¸ (¯`*•.¸F.A.O……..Caroline ¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨)

Greeting’s again Caroline….

Clarification of Marriage details of John Hall ~ Elizabeth ?
4th. February 1688.
Posted a while back……

Fiche No. DE 1965. / 2. one of two fiches.

St. John the Baptist Parish Church.
Belton.
Leicestershire.

Parish Registers Reads thus :~

ANNO DOMINI :~ 1688.
1st. Entry.
Marriage.
John Hall of BELTON to
Mary HOSTER. Of SHACKERSTONE in the County of LEICESTER.
….4th. Feb.


Baptism details found :~

1800. EDWARD Son of Edward & Mary Hall. ……1st. June.

1803. WILLIAM. Son of Edward & Mary Hall. ….15th. June.

1806. MARY. Daughter of Edward & Mary Hall. …10th. June.

1808. ELIZABETH. Daughter of Edward & Mary Hall. 27th. June.

1811. SARAH. Daughter of Edward & Mary Hall. …16th. June.

All above events conducted by James Glazebrook. Vicar.

MIKE.xxx

Greeting’s again. …….. Elaine.

Sorry NO Ward Marriage for 1934. @ St. George’s ……

I know you said not to widen the search But………

Tried
St, John the Divine. ( Close to St. Georges )
St. Luke’s.
St. Mathew’s.
St. Martin’s.
All Saint’s.
St. Nicolas.

The only Ward Marriage 1934.2nd Qrt. to match G.R.O. ref. I could find :~

St. Margaret’s Parish Church.
Page.209.
Entry. Mo. 418.

February 17th. 1934.

John Frederick MALSBURY.20. Bachelor. Shoe Hand.
50. Benford Street..
Father :~ Joseph Malsbury. Railway Worker.

Phyllis WARD. 21. Spinster. Elastic Hand.
53. Lower Church-gate.
Father. :~ Thomas Ward. Pensioner.

By Banns. By Me :~ K. Parsons.
Both signed the register by own signatures.

Wit’s :~ Winifred Brown. Thomas Ward.

With regards to your other Question I read it to mean
That when Maynard Ward became older enough to leave
The Education School
Then my trustees use funds put aside to buy him into an Apprenticeship
In a trade of his choice
and to use funds to both clothe him & to buy the necessary tools to allow him to carry out that Occupation.

I’m still trawling Parishes re:~ Scotton for your friend Jean.

MIKE. xxx

Hi Mike

Thanks very much for looking for the marriage of Peter Smith and Hannah Betts, it does help but I would have been absolutely overjoyed if the Father's names had been recorded, especially for Peter Smith, Smith being such a terrible name to research.

Thanks again

Regards
Kathleen

Hi ,thanks very much for trying for me ,much appreciated.I will try your suggestion.
Best Wishes,Suz.

Hi Mike

If someone stated this in a will

To my trustees I desire that my son Maynard Ward when he leaves Desford School, shall be Apprenticed to a trade and also properly clothed for the same...


am I right in assuming it was the industrial school being referred to?
Elaine