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Greeting’s again English Bob.

1871. Trade Directory

Page. No. 32.

Granby Street,
No. 64.

Cooke Tho. bhs. Granby Arms.

( not too sure what the bhs stands for. Boarding House ? )

MIKE.

bhs, not homestores! beer house! all ties in nicely, thanks, Bob

lol :0)))) NO..... Silly bhs was a bit further down the Road ...in High Street .....
& did a swap with Woollies latter on lol :0)))))

..and at the opposite side of the street in the odd numbers, Thomas Cook without the e was a tee total travel agent, oh how I missed out by one e and and few beers!!
Bob

Not forgetting ALL the FREE travel & Holidays you could have had. ...:0((((

All together now ,,,Arh shame....

I think the Granby Arms was oposite to where C & A's was ( Coat & ats )

...but the Cooke's did travel for free for a while,Gfthr C.C Cooke, Ypres, Belgium, 1917, picked up an MM.

D.R.Cooke, Egypt, 1947, picked up treatable deseases, no medals and a bad attitude..at least he never went to Korea!

All free trips c/o HM Gov. won't mention mine!

Bob

Did you know that Tho Cook was the 1st. person in Leicester
to have fresh water piped Into their premises ?

There is a Big row going on at the moment with regards his Temperance Hotel
Site ( Granby Street )
The Council want to pull it down as per usual…and build new Shops / Offices.

MIKE.

..no I did'nt, but that's typical for history being wiped out, take a look a at Gun wharf quays in Pompey.

As an aside I have just had a look at at 64 Granby St. it is now an interent Cafe convenience store, I will definitely have to visit when time allows.

Bob

Hello Mike

While I am waiting for my Samuel Sanby death cert I wondered if you could help me again with my Hall family in Belton, Leicestershire.

Just to recap, my GG Grandfather William Hall was born 1829 in Belton, unfortunately you couldn’t find his baptism. His father was Charles b1799 and you found his burial on 29/6/1838. You then found William in the 1841 census and your thoughts were that he was with his grandparents Edward b 1775 and Mary Hall also in Belton.

I have found children for Edward and Mary on familysearch, Charles 1799, William 1803 James 1805, Mary 1806, Elizabeth Ann 1808, Sarah 1811 and George 1814. William and George are still with Edward and Mary in the 1841 census.

I have found Edward in the 1851 and 1861 census at Whitwick and he is described as a lodger living with Edward Hall b1801 Belton and his wife Mary. Do you think this is another son? Could you check the parish records for me as Edward b1801 does not show up on the familysearch site.

I have found a death registration for Edward Hall in 1866 at Loughborough Q4 7a 67. They have his birth year as 1786 instead of 1775. Can you check the parish burial records to see if he is buried in Whitwick?

I can find no record for the death of his wife Mary b c1777. In the 1861 census he is a widower, can’t read the 1851 it is too faint. Could you see if there is a death in the Belton parish records for her 1841-1851?

Hope all this makes sense!! Would be very grateful for any help please!

Thank you
Caroline xx

(¯`*•.¸ (¯`*•.¸F.A.O. Mary O’ Italy….. ¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨)

Greeting’s again. ……. Mary O’ Italy.

Fiche No. 24D65 / D8. Forth fiche of Five.

St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.

Registers read thus :~
Page. 202.

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1816.
Entry No.605.

William Abraham. Of this Parish. Bachelor.

Hannah Cope. Of this Parish. Spinster.

Married in this Church by Banns
By Me :~ Thomas Barnaby. Jnr.

This Sixth Day of October.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Sixteen.

William signed the register by his mark = X.
Hannah by own clear signature.

Wit’s :~

Richard & Thomas Stringer ( Both Church Wardens )

Fiche No. DE 727. / 8. one of two fiches.

St. Simon & St. Jade. Parish Church.
Earl Shilton. Leicestershire.

Registers read thus :~

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1775.

Entry. No. 48.
John POOLE. Of Balstone Parish. Bachelor.

Rebecca. Fowkes. Of Elmesthorpe Parish. Spinster.

Married in this Church by LICENCE ( Sorry my Disc had it by Banns.)
By Me :~ R. Waddington. Curate.

This Fifteenth Day of August.
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy Five.

John signed as John POOL.
Rebecca as REBECKER. Fowkes.

Wit’s :~ William Seaton. & Richard Fowkes.

The Bonus comes from the Bond details. :~

Approved & Granted 5th. August. 1775.

POOLE John. Butcher. BARLESTONE. Bachelor ( 28.)

FOWKES REBECCA. Spinster. ( 22 ) Elmesthorpe.

Securer of £ 200 Bond :~ Richard Fowkes. Farmer. Elmesthorpe.

I will take a look for any Baptisms for John & Rebecca and any Children
Along with any Baptisms for any children of William & Hannah Abraham
Next time I’m at the Records Office.

MIKE. xxx

That's brilliant, Mike, thanks very much indeed.

" Your very welcome Mary O' Italy "

Once again..... sorry to have miss lead you regarding the Banns / Licence.

MIKE.

No problem, that bond was really useful. I wonder if Richard Fowkes was Rebecca's father?

(¯`*•.¸ (¯`*•.¸F.A.O. Caroline ¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨)

Greeting’s again. …………. Caroline.

ALL Burials for HALL in
St. John the Baptist Parish
Church yard
BELTON.

Hall John 15 Dec 1813 Aged.56
Hall William 24 Apr 1814 72
Hall Charles 6 Dec 1814 68
Hall Ann 8 Oct 1819 50
HALL * ELIZABETH ANN 2 AUG 1820 Aged.12 DAU OF EDWARD & MARY
Hall Mary 24 Dec 1820 55 Wife Of Wm
Hall Wm 8 Feb 1825 62
Hall John 13 Aug 1825 Inf Baseborn Son Of June
Hall Martha 14 Mar 1837 77 Wife Of Charles
Hall Geo 16 Sep 1837 2 Dau Of Charles & Mary
HALL * CHARLES 29 JUN 1838 40
HALL * GEORGE 19 OCT 1848 34
HALL WILLIAM 11 JAN 1849 46
HALL * MARY 2 MAY 1849 Aged.72
Hall Sarah 31 Mar 1850 2
Hall Ann 10 Jun 1851 1
Hall Louisa 25 Mar 1858 3
HALL * EDWARD 26 APR 1861 Aged.86 ABODE WHITWICK
Hall Samuel 7 May 1861 1
Hall Hannah 11 Mar 1863 19
Hall Hannah 6 Nov 1869 51
Hall Mary 26 Jan 1873 Aged.77 Abode Whitwick

I’ve Stared * those who I think just might belong to you.
And are closer to the birth years you have given.

That 1851. census returns which you had difficulties in reading
Reads thus :~

Whitwick.
Waste Fields

Page 30.

Edward Hall. Head Mar. 50. Carpenter. b Leicester Belton.
Mary Wife. 48. b Leicester. Shepshed.

Page 31.

Whitwick.
Waste Fields.

John Hall. Unmar. 24. Carpenter. …b Leicester. Whitwick.
Charles Whitman.. 15. Carpenter Apprentice. b Shepshed.
Edward Hall. Lodger. 76. Frame Work Knitter. b Belton.

MIKE. xx

Hi Mike

Hope you can help me again, I'm looking for the marriage details of the following

John Hulett/Hulatt to Hannah Hammond in 1903 don't know where in Leics. could be Blaby
Joseph Hulett to Ellen Elizabeth Baggott in 1880 again I don't know where?
Ann Maria Hulett to Wm.Edward Fisher at St. Margarets in 1893
Peter Smith to Hannah Betts in Oct 1833 at St. Margarets

I wonder do you have access to the burials at Gilroes?

Many thanks for your help

Regards

Kathleen

Thank you Mike. As usual you have come up trumps!!

Could I ask for some more help please. Would you check the parish records for some marriages for me.

I have the following info from familysearch and I wondered if you could add any more info.

Edward Hall b1775, parents William Hall and Mary Bennet married 3/10/1763.

William Hall b 1742, parents Edward Hall and Mary Burrows married 28/4/1730.

Edward Hall b 1701, parents John Hall and Elizabeth.

All the Halls were born in Belton but I cannot see where any of their wives were born as too many choices and none of them Belton. Can't find where the last John Hall was born. Please could you see if you can find him in Belton. I have been very lucky so
far that the Halls seem to have stayed in Belton but if John has come from somewhere else my luck has run out!!

Caroline xx

Greeting’s again Kathleen.

I’ve had a whiz around using the resources to hand…..

ALL MARRIAGES checked out in both surnames.

As per your list :~

Apr. ~ May. ~ Jun. Qrt. 1903.
John HULETT. ~ Hannah Hammond.
LEICESTER.
Cert No. 7a. 620.

Apr. ~ May. ~ Jun. Qrt. 1880.
Joseph HULETT. ~ Ellen E. Baggett.
LEICESTER.
Cert, No. 7a. 385.


St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
Entry No.175,
MAY 14, 1893, after Banns
WILLIAM EDWARD FISHER, 23, Bachelor. ENGINEER, of LINCOLN,
Son. of WILLIAM EDWARD FISHER, ENGINEER.

ANNIE MARIA HULETT, 23, Spinster.. of 32, THAMES St,
Daughter. of FRANCIS HULETT. MOULDER
Wits: WILLIAM ADDY, ELIZABETH ASHTON.

Peter Smith. ~ Hannah Betts.
13th. Oct. 1833. St. Margaret’s Parish Church.

The quickest way would be to order the Certificates for
John & Hannah. And Joseph & Elizabeth. using the Ref No.’s
This will save hours of trawling registers at the Records Office.

Peter & Hannah ~ 1833 St. Margaret’s Parish Church
I can do next time I’m at the records Office.

Gilroes Cemetery Records……..

The ONLY agent who has the details is Leicester Council
Contactable via link below :~

Address:
Bereavement Services Manager
New Walk Centre
Welford Place
Leicester
LE1 6ZG

Telephone (U.K.): 0116 252 7382/7383

Fax (U.K): 0116 222 8706

E-Mail:~ [email protected]

BUT they do charge !!!

£20 per person. …….. per hour
£5 if you do the search yourself
But you need to make an appointment to do this

MIKE.

Greeting’s again………….. Caroline.

ALL the marriages appeared on one of my Discs. …….
They all look like they were by banns

But I will have to look at the originals Registers to gain any other information other than what you have given all ready…..
But seeing the early dates then they could well be just one liners
e.g. = Marriages Anno Domini :~1763
William Hall ~ Mary Bennet ….Married …3rd.Oct.

Re John Hall’s marriage to an Elizabeth ?

The following looks promising :~

Marriages Anno Domini :~ 1688.

John Hall.~ Elizabeth HOSKER.
4th. February.
Belton. Leicestershire.

Notes :~ I’ll typed them as they appear :~

Of Thornock Shone Mthe
County of Sullwer.

Sounds a bit like a place in Ireland ?

We’ll see what develops at the Records Office

MIKE.

Hi Mike

Thank you very much for looking for the marriages and the info about the burials, would appreciate it if you do manage to find the details of the marriage of Peter Smith and Hannah Betts. As you say it looks like the best way is to get the certs for the others.

Thanks again

Regards

Kathleen

Hello again Mike

Thank you for checking the marriages and finding one for John Hall. Sounds interesting doesn't it!? Can't wait to see what you find at the Records Office.

Thank you again for all the time you have spent helping me, I really appreciate it.

Caroline xx