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Who are we looking in for In Derbyshire?

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Derek Report 11 Jun 2010 20:41

Hi LA..hope you're feeling better....if you have any specific queries for Matlock for week beginning 21st June..hurl them at me..
Regards to the rest of the Nutters..



LaGooner Report 11 Jun 2010 09:38

Just popped in to say morning Derek. Still sifting through loads of notes for the dreaded lot !! LOL


Derek Report 11 Jun 2010 09:34

Red..can't get to matlock till week beginning 21st June...when i have a week off work.



Derek Report 31 May 2010 19:58

Hi Red..sorry i missed you,,and also sorry becasue the Bakewell Parish records only go as far as 1860........the more modern records are still usually held by the Church..and not passed on to records office's till they choose.......There may be a disc including your dates..but I rather doubt it..I am going to Matlock Records Office within the next week, and I'll check for you.

All the best


Janet Elizabeth

Janet Elizabeth Report 31 May 2010 08:05

Thank you
Please could we correspond by email?
I had a detailed reply to you - and lost it!
There is more that I would like to send in attachment.



Derek Report 30 May 2010 22:20

Hello janet.......this is not easy....George Allsop is a very common name in the variation of Allsop Allsop Alsop seems to be very is what i have got.

I have been unable to find his birth/ spite of having the Belper/Duffield records......two possibilities....either he was not baptised of he was Non-Conformist.

1841 census has him in the same household as HANNAH ALLSOP born 1796..who might be his widowed mother..or who might be an unmarried daughter of his grandfather JOSEPH ALLSOP born 1765..I do know that Joseph's parents were Thomas and Martha Allsop.

George had a sister Sarah born 1826

I have the full Bakewell Parish Records.and therefore can tell you everything you need to know about ALLICE TURNER the wife of George..

Allice was baptised 22.10.1823 daughter of Joseph and Phoebe who were married 06.01.1814

Joseph turner was born 24.10/1792 son of Geroge and marfy.

Phoebe his wife was born Phoebe Summer

All this occurred at Bakewell..1871 Census has GEORGE ALLSOP a farmer..and one of his children was Thomas Allsop 22.08.1851 to 17.06.1927

thay's all i have for the moment.

All the best


Janet Elizabeth

Janet Elizabeth Report 30 May 2010 08:18

George Allsop/Alsop b Abt 1827
M 1849 Duffield
1841 CENS - Mount Pleasant Belper
1849 MAR C - Belper
1851 CENS - New Street Bakewell
1851 Son's BIR C - Bakewell
1874 son's MAR C - Bakewell
1881 CENS - Bath Street Bakewell age 51 [born 1830?]
Occupation: 1841 CENS Belper Cotton Labourer
1849 MAR C Labourer
1851 CENS Bakewell labourer of New St (b Belper)
1851 son's BIR C - Labourer
1874 son's MAR C - farmer
1881 CENS - farmer of 20 acres
Please can you help find his birth/bapt?
Thank you Janet
Not sure I can find you again -


LaGooner Report 30 May 2010 01:15

Thanks for looking Derek.


Derek Report 30 May 2010 00:10

Hi Sx.......mea culpa mea culps mea maxima culpa........I missed it.....can't help much though.

THOMAS MEAKIN son of Samuel and Mary (Dankin)..born Repton 28.12.1722............married Dorothy........allegedly 1745 Repton or 1743 Weston on Trent..both wrong becasue neither appear in the Derbyshire Marriages for those two places.............I will have a look around locally...but will take some time.......Dorothy died Repton 1787 and Thomas appears to have died in Graz Austria 1782..allegedly..........several trees on Ancestry say so........but none give Dorothy's name..nor does IGI.....
I'll look through my Derbyshire marriages..........Derek.


LaGooner Report 29 May 2010 20:59

Hi Derek go back a few posts on this thread and you will find it posted on 27th May No it is not exactly a Me****m or could it be ?LOL


Derek Report 29 May 2010 10:05 why would i do that??....have i missed something?? what would you like me to find for you..that is NOT starting with Me and ending with am!!lol



LaGooner Report 29 May 2010 09:51

Where are you Derek are you avoiding me and the family LOL ???


Bursaned Report 29 May 2010 01:52

Sorry to jump in, but I have relatives that hailed from Lancashire named Dobson as well. They up and moved to Australia, so that may be one reason that yours are missing on the censuses.



zardoz Report 28 May 2010 13:48

Hi Derek.

I am having real trouble finding ANY records for my GGF/GGM.

Joesph Francis Dobson
Anna Eliza Dobson (nee Smith)

The lived in Gisborn Street, Derby.

I got this info from my GM's birth cert. Their ages in 1963 (when they died) is though to be 79 & 69 respectively, putting their D.O.B. circa 1884 & 1894.

They had 4 children, Ellen (my GM in 1909), Clara b. 1921, Joseph & another child who died young.

I think they originally came from east Lancs.

Is it usual for families to be completely missed from successive census records?

Any light you can shed would be greatfuly received.

Thanks in advance.



LaGooner Report 27 May 2010 21:37

Hi Derek, just by way of a change of family LOL. Can you find out the surname of Dorothy who married Thomas Meakin. Thomas was born 1722 in Repton. Going by another tree I have viewed they may have married 1743. Also looking for Thomas' death please. I have Dorothy's death as 1787 in Repton can you please check this for me.

Many thanks.


LaGooner Report 20 May 2010 21:43

I have not the feintest Derek. She claims to be a professional Geneaologist so who am I to question LOL


Derek Report 19 May 2010 22:58

Hi Gooner..yes i did..sorry been out all day.........In the family tree i see a Gilbert Measham 1790.............I wonder where you contact got the Family tree long before Parish records??


LaGooner Report 19 May 2010 21:03

Derek did you get those documents ok ?


Derek Report 17 May 2010 23:41

Ha!! you said Richards..not Richard..which Richard??? the ealiest measham i have found so far is GILBERT Measham who married Sarah Richardson 24.06.1695......send me anything you like.
Have been going through every Measham who ever lived!! noting yet..but one potential area of explorationj is that Gilbert Measham who married Elizabeth Stanley 12.05.1772..signed his name as MEASOM!!



LaGooner Report 17 May 2010 22:35

In fact her branch goes back to Roger Measham about 1445. If you would like me to forward the emails to you I can if you pm you addy. Also the newspaper article which is interesting reading.