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Who are we looking in for In Derbyshire?

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Annette Report 8 Oct 2008 15:34

Thanks Derek, Good Luck!

Sherbert Rose

Sherbert Rose Report 8 Oct 2008 17:45

Hi Derek,

Thank you for the information. Hannah and her parents came from another genes member and although I am more than happy to take peoples research at face value it is always nice to have dates confirmed. The two siblings of Hannah were also made available to me together with two other siblings Elizabeth White 1738 and Robert White 1726. Elizabeths birth and parentage I am tempted to accept as it also shows on the igi website, however Robert White 1726 seems rather early compared with the other children and the parents marriage. Are you able to throw any light on these births.

Also, do you have any records to indicate who Ann Palfreymans parents were. The only birth that I could find on the igi website was for a Ann Palfeyman was 1711 but Tideswell so I am not sure about this one at all.

Many thanks, Sandra


Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 20:15

Hi Sandra
.Parish records you can take as 100%..and i have loads........the 1726 birth and the 1738 birth are quite wide apart and do not show on the parish records...howver i will have another look.



Chrissie2394 Report 8 Oct 2008 20:18

Hi Derek,

Thanks for looking it is appreciated. When I have more info I will contact you again.



Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 20:26

Hi again Sandra I'm not a great fan of IGI and LSD records..unless they are extracted..the birth for Ann palfreyman will NOT be extracted becasue i have the Tideswell Parish records from which such info would have been extracted....the only Ann who might fit is in fact Anne.bapt15.11.1812...ok she could have been born 1811, becasue one of the great mysteries tro me is the length of time you often find in early records of the gap between birth and baptism..Her father was george palfreyman by the way.
There are trillions of palfreymans in Tideswell!

will keep digging for you


was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 8 Oct 2008 20:31


Thanks for your kind offer. I have John Drabble who married Deborah Hollingworth in 1749 in Peak Forest Chapel. They went on to have a number of children in the Chesterfield area, including Samuel around 1763. By 1785 Samuel has moved to Notts where he stayed all his life. I found a death for Deborah, but nothing for John. Anything on John would be greatly appreciated. His son Samuel said John was "farmer of Grassmoor"


Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 20:38

Hi Sandra.....I would be tempted to reject both Robert and Elizabeth..because Elizabeth was bapt 05.05 1738 daughter of Robert and Anne...with an E..I'll see if i can find a marriage..... and the 1726 Robert...02.10.1726 was the son of John and Alice..........


Sherbert Rose

Sherbert Rose Report 8 Oct 2008 21:04

Hi Derek,

Thanks for looking for me. I had serious doubts about the Robert 1726 but thought that Elizabeth was a possibility as it fiited in with the other dates.

Thank you for finding me Ann Palfreymans birth details. I can now add her father George to my tree.


Sherbert Rose

Sherbert Rose Report 8 Oct 2008 21:58

Hi Derek

Sorry to be a nuisence but I am a little confused about Ann Palfreyman. The entry I found on the igi web site was an extracted entry - the 15 Nov 1511 (christening). Do you think that this is the christening record for my Ann. I thought she was born in North Wingfield. Is there another record for Ann which is mory likely?



Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 22:04

Sandra..the child Robert b 1726 could not be the child of Robert and Ann palfreyman..they werent married till 1734
I haven't found the birth of Ann Palfreyman..only Anne Palfreyman baptised 1812.......I'd be happey enopugh with that if you accpet that she could be Ann on one entry and Anne on another.


Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 22:13

Ann palfreyman was MARRIED in north Wingfield..she was not born in North Wingfield..the only Ann born in NWF in 1711 was Ann Cutt.who didn't marry there.


Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 22:39

Hey Gooner!! as in Arsenal???? i misread your message.and looked for marriages on the dates you mention....I'll have to look might like to know what i found anyway:-
Ann Measham m Richard Crisp (private in the Army reserve) 21.08.1803
George measham m Ann rebecca Ward 23.03.1826
Thomas Measham m Sarah Smith 11.06.1814 ( she was a minor married with her parents consent..dirty git!! lol)
Thomas measham a widower m, Ann leadham 01.12.1817
Sarah Measham m William palmer 14.08.1815
Richard Measham m.Eleanor Martin 22.01.1808

Now i'll look for possible marriages for peeps BORN on the dates you mention....

Will get back to the way these are all marriages in repton


Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 23:49

Hot off the press.....Ann Measham 1803 never married.was still living with her widowed mother in was mummy's boy Henry aged 33

Derek...........I'm off to bed!!


Derek Report 8 Oct 2008 23:53

Annielaurie..wee Scots lassie?? can't give you too much yet..but can confirm that John Drabble married Deborah hollingworth 26.10.1749..have only partial records of Peak forest...but as a matter of interest..just in case you can link them:
Edward drabble married Elizabeth Makinson 06.01.1748
Robert Drabble married sarah Turner 03.02.1752

all at peak forest.

will keep looking for you.


Sherbert Rose

Sherbert Rose Report 9 Oct 2008 09:02

Hi Derek,

Thanks for the clarification. I will therefore assume that Ann Palfreyman of Tideswell was the correct Ann.

Many thanks for all your help Sandra.


Derek Report 9 Oct 2008 09:13

Hi Sandra i think you're right.any more you need, just yell!


was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 9 Oct 2008 15:18


Thanks for the information - I didn't know about the marriages of Edward and Robert. There could well be a connection! Thanks for continuing to look


Sarah Report 10 Oct 2008 09:27

thanks derek for the info
could you give me the censuses on the heap family plz

many thanks


Sarah Report 10 Oct 2008 09:42

hi derek

also could you confirm this marriage
eliza shakespear b 1841 church gresley to a john pickering b 1839 blackforby (father william pickering b 1803? derbyshire would like info on him plz)

eliza shakespear m john 1859 st johns newhall derbyshire can you confirm this plz

many thanks


Jubal Report 10 Oct 2008 11:39

Hey Derek,

Not sure if you saw my earlier post on this thread re Emma Colledge, or if it was just too vague a request?. Either way I certainly appreciate all time and effort this takes, it's very kind of you.

Sincere Best Wishes,