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Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 5 May 2009 20:09

Greeting’s Again. Kathleen.

Are we talking about :~

G.R.O. Death Index Records :~
1911. 3rd Qrt.
Wells. …… Ada.
Aged. 24.
Cert No’. 7 a. 257.

Sorry but Ada did not appear in Welford Road Cemetery nor did Ada appear on my other disks

Therefore there is a strong assumption Ada was Buried / Cremated at GILROES

Unfortunately the Local Council are the only ones holding the details of this Crematorium.

Link :~

All cemetery and crematorium matters are dealt with at our central office
in New Walk Centre, Leicester.

Contact Address:~

Bereavement Services Manager
New Walk Centre
Welford Place

Telephone (U.K.): 0116 252 7382/7383

Fax (U.K): 0116 222 8706


But be aware it’s expensive !!!. …….
£20 per person per hour.

Or £5 per person per hour….If you make an appointment to search yourself.

Sorry again. …..



Kathleen Report 6 May 2009 16:36

Hi Mike

Many thanks for looking for the Ada Well's burial and the info on Gilroes, I appreciate your help.


Sarah Report 6 May 2009 17:38

hi mike

can you help me plz with this
i have

kathleen clarke b 1924 oadby leicester
parents regnianld clarke b 1897 mother ada b 1897 leicester
can you look for me if kathleen married a edward brennan about 1946 leicester

many thanks

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 6 May 2009 21:28

Greeting’s Again. Dewdrop.


Jan. ~ Feb. ~ Mar. Qrt. 1946.


Cert No’. 7 a. 668.

Checked out in both names
But notice different spelling for Kathleen.



Sarah Report 9 May 2009 13:00

thanks mike for the info

the reason for me asking for the info somone has been in touch with me about kathleen clarke b 1924 and i was trying to see if we shared the same kathleen clarke she has her born 1924 leicester with a son by the name of patrick storer b 1940 leicester so maybe kathleen married twice

many thanks mike


Sarah Report 9 May 2009 22:10

hi mike

sorry to ask again but can you look up

john h wragg b 1900 bagworth leicester and also look to see if he had a brother willam r wragg b 1903 leicsester i know john h wragg had sister lilly b 1904 leicester

many thanks

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 10 May 2009 17:36

Greeting’s again Dewdrop.

The only John H. Wragg birth record found c 1900 :~

Oct. ~ Nov, ~ Dec. Qrt. 1899.
John Henry Wragg.
Cert No’. 7a 214.

1901.Census ref :~ RG. 13. / 2988. / 105. / Page.21.

Northumberland Street.
No’. 3 Rural Place.
John Wragg. Head mar. 32. Engineers Lab. b Bonsall Derbyshire.
Rebecca. Wife. 30. Worsted Spinner. b BAGWORTH. Leicestershire.
John. H. Son. 1. b LEICESTER.

As you can see it was only Rebecca (Mother) who was born in Bagworth.

Other Birth records found :~

Jan. ~ Feb. ~ Mar. Qrt. 1903.
William Richard Wragg.
Cert No’. 7a. 514.

No sign of Lilly 1904 ~ 6…..




Sarah Report 10 May 2009 22:25

thanks mike for the info


Sylvia Report 11 May 2009 12:46

Hi Mike,

Sorry if this is long, but would value your opinion please

I think i may have finally found a wife for my Thomas Cooper, i know you wont remember that far back as you do so many look ups, but you helped me discount a Alice Shuttlewood.

Thomas Cooper born abt 1766 is only on the 1841 census, So Leicestershire is the only birthplace i have,
he dies in 1848 and buried in Burton Lazars.

He married twice, first to Alice ? with 7? children and then Mary ? with 3 children, all the children born Burton Lazars

Today i found a marriage on Free Reg in Stathern, Thomas Cooper of Harby married Alice Geezing 9 Jan 1788,
a child Thomas is baptised 11 Feb 1788 in Stathern, the only child of theirs born there and would make it 8 children with Alice

IF this couple are my Thomas and Alice they moved to Burton Lazars and the next child is baptised 23 Aug 1789,
Their youngest child Ann is my 2x great grandmother, born 1804

Alice dies in 1805

Thomas marries Mary ? where? when ?

Mary is on the 1851 census as born Stathern, their first child Ruth born 12 July 1812 Burton Lazars

I have found a submitted entry on IGI, giving a marriage of 1811 and looking at the family group record,
the baptism of a Elizabeth Harris on 29 Aug 1813 with Thomas Cooper and Mary as parents. Could Harris be Marys maiden name or a previous marriage ?

Now Harby and Stathern are pretty close on the map and Stathern and Burton Lazars are about 3 hours walking distance according to Google.

Thank you for any help



Sarah Report 11 May 2009 22:06

hi mike

hope your well
marriage plz

sydney wragg married abt 1934 to a unkown steveson (poss in wing rutland

i presume sydney first child was born 1934 so guessing so to speak sydney married abt 1934

many thanks

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 12 May 2009 00:05

There you Go…….

September Qrt. 1926.

Sidney W. Wragg. ~ PHYLLIS M. STEVENSON.


Cert No’. 7 a. 899.

Wing comes under Uppingham District
So marriage did not take place in Wing.



Sarah Report 12 May 2009 10:40

thanks very much mike

your a star

did it say how old they were ?


Sarah Report 16 May 2009 09:53

hi mike

advice plz a person has been in touch with me saying they are a professional geneoligist saying that they can help me and for a small fee and can give me the info but i dont know this person

what should i do?

many thanks

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 16 May 2009 13:52

Greeting’s Again. ….Dewdrop.

Ummm ?............ I would be a bit wary of them !!…….

Is there away you can check them out via Business Directories. 1st. ?

If they want money up front then I would be very cautious………

A lot of these so called Professionals……promise results. ……..
but do not come up with the goods…….

Which with modern day Family History on line It’s possible for you to find out the details you want even if it takes a while to get it.

Try and set up a personal meeting with them
with you having a witness with you
And ask for some proof of what they have found
before you part with any money .

But at the end of the day the choice is yours. ….
If you wish to take up their offer. ……



Sarah Report 16 May 2009 14:25

thanks mike

sound advice as always i have emailed them and said thanks but no thanks but heard nothing back as yet

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 19 May 2009 22:27

Nudged. for Robert


trebor Report 20 May 2009 09:25

Hi,Mike,I wondered if they would have a copy of a Marr at Wigston Magna For a Richard Barsby and Eliza ludlam 1807 Oadby.for his Parents ,I belive he Marr again in 1825 to a MARY If you can help i,d appreciate it .Thanks Robert

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 20 May 2009 13:32

Greeting’s & Welcome. ……. Robert.

Just using my database…….

CONFIRMATION of the Marriages.:~

St: Peter’s Parish Church.
Richard Barsby. ~ ELIZ LUDLAM.
12th. July.
By Banns.

St: Mary’s Parish Church.

Richard Barsby. ~ Mary DRAPER.
10th. October.
By Banns.

Reason for Second Marriage is backed up by the Burial details for Elizabeth :~

St: Peter’s Parish Church

Parish Burial Register No’. 196.
Elizabeth Barsby.
Abode. …Oadby.
29th. March.
Aged. 37.

Is this enough information for you to continue ….or
Do you wish me to transcribe all the details from the Marriage / Burial Registers
On this thread once I’ve seen them at the Records Office.?



trebor Report 20 May 2009 14:36

Mike Thanks a lot ,Thats fine for now .Im just hoping it gives his father. When you have checked it all . Thanks for you time Robert

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)

Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC) Report 20 May 2009 22:36

Greeting’s Again. Robert.

I understand that the Father’s were not named on Marriage Certificates. Before 1837.
After 1837 ~
Is when the Register is more or less the same as we see today.

So if there was a “ Barsby” named as a witness
on Richards Marriage certificate it followed it might not be his Father
it’s more likely to be a Brother Or Sister or Mother.

I’ve had a look around but drew a blank for a Baptism for Richard
But we got lucky for Eliz Ludlam.
If her age on death was right ( b c 1788) then this is her Parents:~

St: Peter’s Parish Church Oadby.
Elizabeth Daughter of Richard & Jane Ludlam. ………. Bapt 30th. March.

But……… We’ll see what transpires from the Registers

Now on the Draper History
I see that on the 1801.& 1811. Head Count ( Fore runner to Censuses )
for Bruntingthorpe.

John Draper. Ag. Lab.
1 Male
2 Females.

John Draper. Ag. Lab.
3 Males.
5. Females.

Hope this keeps you going for now.