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EvieBeavie Report 16 Apr 2009 21:43


QUANTICK FLORRIE EVELEN F 1900 11 Edmonton Middlesex

One of the Worsley-Quanticks is Charles.

And that Florence's father, in the 1911, is:

QUANTICK CHARLES R M 1874 37 Edmonton Middlesex

I'm changing my bet. ;)

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Janet 693215 Report 16 Apr 2009 21:58

The problem is, Charles and Florence were popular names then. My grandfather was named Charles but there wasn't another Charles in the family and the same with my great aunt Florence on the other side.

The turn of the 20th century seems to have been the start of the end of traditional naming patterns and the start of name fashions.

Anyway, I've e-mailed Rob, poor bloke, he must think I'm some sort of stalker!

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Janet 693215 Report 16 Apr 2009 22:45

So, theres no Quantick/Wood marriage in England, Wales, Scotland or overseas so Miss Quantick (if thats her name) told big porkies. Somehow, Doreens parent/s got hold of that particular certificate and falsified it again.

I don't buy it, I bet Doreen was Dolly but i keep coming back to, why change the birth date?


FannyByGaslight Report 16 Apr 2009 22:54

Where are the Quantock hills =Somerset
Which is next door to??
No help I know ,but I just had to do that
Get OFF my shoulder right NOW you naughty little imp.
My aunt is a doreen known as Dolly when she was a child,so my money is on it being Doreens cert and they changed the date so she could not be traced through her date of birth maybe,for some reason,as then she becomes a whole new person.

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Janet 693215 Report 19 Apr 2009 18:12

Rob has replied with Dollys parents names

Alice Wood formerly Quantick and John Henry Wood

This may be the Alice M Quantick who appears on the 1901with father William and mother Alice (MMN Tracey) who was born Putney C1889. (Shes also on the 1891 as Mary) However, I can't find her on 1911 which is typical.

Going to have to go offline for a bit as I've made a mess of downloadingg an update. Hope OH can sort it!!!

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Apr 2009 19:35

She could be this one:

Marriages Mar 1906
Adams James Wandsworth 1d 789
HAGLEY Thomas Edmund Wandsworth 1d 789
QUANTICK Alice May Wandsworth 1d 789
Saunders Florence Wandsworth 1d 789

Found Thomas Hagley with son Sidney in 1911 but there's no wife with him.


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Janet 693215 Report 19 Apr 2009 21:12

Yes I found that one myself but I can't find an Alice Hagley and there are so many James Adams with wives called Alice. I couldn't find a Florence Adams or Hagley that i could discount either.

I did find an Alice Adams marrying a John Wood june 1/4 1912 but its a long shot. As for deaths of John Henry Wood on CWGC I'm still working on that.

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Janet 693215 Report 19 Apr 2009 21:59

It is heartbreaking to see how many J H Woods there are on the CWGC who they don't know anything about apart from their name,number, the service they were in and where their memorial is.


EvieBeavie Report 20 Apr 2009 00:51

Two Alices who could have married John Wood 1912 Bethnal Green -- she was Alice M A Adams:

Births Sep 1885
Adams Alice Mary A St. Olave 1d 268
Births Sep 1893
Adams Alice Mary A Mile End 1c 467

There isn't a birth to match this Alice/Mary Quantick in the censuses, is there?

1891 in Putney, for info, per Ancestry:

William Quanbeck 26
Alice Quanbeck 24
Tracey Quanbeck 3 (son)
Mary Quanbeck 2

Births Dec 1887
Quantick Tracey Fulham 1a 291

Ah. Here she is:

Births Mar 1889
Quantice Alice Wandsworth 1d 771

It is indeed heartbreaking (quite apart from frustrating for a searcher) to see how many of the war dead have no personal details - no dob, no next of kin, sometimes no name, as you say. I kind of think the CWGC people should more actively encourage people to submit info about relations who were casualties.

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Janet 693215 Report 20 Apr 2009 08:44

Alice M A Adams born 1893 is in Bethnal Green for the 1911 so that is probably the one who married John Wood the following year.

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Janet 693215 Report 20 Apr 2009 17:28

Forgot to say I've had a reply from Tracy who has a Dolly Wood born 1919 in her tree. She isn't related, her one was born in the Antipodes.

(Notice how I covered up the fact I couldn't remember if she's in NZ or Aus and no one will notice!)


EvieBeavie Report 20 Apr 2009 18:29

OOh, you're clever.:)

Why, if people *know* where their person was born, don't they put it in their tree?

I'm forever asking "hot matches" whether their so-and-so is my so-and-so, purely because they give no indication of where theirs is born, and I don't want to let a possible match slip through my fingers ... and getting back curt answers saying no, not my so-and-so, mine was born in such-and-such place. Well, how was I to know??

Two Dolly Woods born in 1919. Who'd 'a thunk it?

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Janet 693215 Report 20 Apr 2009 19:26

Do you think she had a sister, Holly :-)


EvieBeavie Report 20 Apr 2009 19:33

And of course, a brother Bolly.

I keep wondering the same!

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Janet 693215 Report 20 Apr 2009 20:23

Perhaps Holly moved to Suffolk and stayed with Mary Christmas the neighbour of my gggrandparents.


Jooleh Report 23 Apr 2009 17:59

*If* Alice Quantick became Alice Wood maybe she died following Dolly's birth?

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
Wood Alice 29 Wandsworth 1d 1548


EvieBeavie Report 23 Apr 2009 18:08

Aha aha aha!

Or - if she was just calling herself Alice Wood. Quite possible, cohabitation w/o marriage and all.

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Janet 693215 Report 23 Apr 2009 19:53

Thanks for spotting that one Evie. I've had to put the detective work on hold for the moment 'cos I've got a 2000 word essay to submit by next tuesday.

Hopefully I will be back on the trail next week.

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Janet 693215 Report 1 May 2009 22:57

Thank you Evie. I wrote to Rob and asked him for Dolly's birth certificate and also Alices death if it was relevant. I received them both today.

Dolly was born 25th October 1918 at 76 Lower Richmond Road. Her father John Henry registered the birth. 7 days later he registered the death of his "wife" Alice. She died from Influenza, childbirth and bronchial pneumonia.

I can only assume that he was unable to care for Dolly so passed her to the Rookes to bring up as their own.

Pat said her mum (Dolly/Doreen) idolised her "mother" and protected her when her "father" turned violent so it would have been unthinkable for her to tell her daughter that she was adopted.

I suppose we've been brought up in different times when it would be unthinkable to not telll an adopted child about their past but in this case?
Personally I'm glad the secret remained for 90 years and Doreen didn't find out.

Theres still some digging to be done to find the Rooke/ Wood/ Quantick link if there is a family link but on the balance of probabilities, I think the above is possibly the closest I'll get to the truth.

Thanks for your help on this one.


Angela Report 2 May 2009 14:24

I've found this thread very interesting - if a bit late !
I would agree this seems to now be solved. Apart from confirming the family connection or not.
My Mum was born illegitimate in 1933. Her birth was registered under her mothers married name, but she was generally known by her fathers name.
When, at the age of 6 yrs my mum's mum died, her father gave her away to a couple he knew from his local pub. This couple (my "grandparents") had two sons and had apparently lost a little girl.
It sometimes helps I think, to hear other people's stories.
Good Luck!