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thanks Reggie. :-)

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Robert Swinburn Murray, of St Joseph Home. Croye Road, N/C
Probate Date: 21 Sep 1917
Death Date: 21 Feb 1917
Death Place: Newcastle upon Tyne, England
Registry: London, England

Probate to Herbert Murray, chemical manufacturer's clerk

Effects £144

A man born in 1887 is extremely unlikely to have served in ANY capacity during WW2.....except perhaps in the LDV/ Home Guard

Do the maths...........


If he served, it would have been in WW1

1911 census

Person: MURRAY, Herbert Address: 100 Douglas Terrace Newcastle upon Tyne

MURRAY, Robert Swinburn Head Married M 59 1852 Coachman Wylam Co Durham VIEW
MURRAY, Phoebe Wife Married37 years F 59 1852 Consett Co Durham VIEW
MURRAY, Herbert Son Single M 24 1887 Despatcher Newcastle Northumberland

Look for info yourself on freebmd to find out when/where he was born, and if he married.........and if he produced offspring

Buy his death cert - the informant may have been related

Need help to find out more about HERBERT MURRAY.Born c1888 d1940.
He was I think born in Co.Durham.And served as a Royal Naval Reserve Officer
during the second World War,with the rank of Lieutenant.He may have served
on H.M.S.Defiant.
He is a First Cousin 2 times removed from me.His father was Robert Murray,and his Mother Phebe Bibbins.

Gordon Walton.

thanks Reggie. :-D

Marriage 23rd October 1843, St. Peter's Wolverhampton:

Joseph Bibbins, bachelor of full age, Ironworker of Bilston, father's name T. Bibbins, a forgeman
m.
Ann Allen, spinster of full age, of Bilston, father's name T. Allen, a miner.

You're welcome.................

thanks again Reggie,your help has been great again. :-D

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Mary Wilkinson
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1949
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Durham North Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 520

(Letters of )Administration to Robert Wilkinson, Husband of deceased.

Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)
Bibbins Isabella 46 Lanchester 10a 217

Age is incorrectly recorded

1911 England Census

Name: Thomas Bibibns
Age in 1911: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Consett, Durham, England
Civil parish: Consett
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Puddlers Row Consett
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Labouer
Registration district: Lanchester
Registration District Number: 550
Sub-registration district: Consett
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 29897
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bibibns 62
Joseph Bibibns 36
John Bibibns 25
Mary Bibibns 20

Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
Bibbins Robert William Lanchester 10a 336
Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
Bibbins Robert William 1 Lanchester 10a 184

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Thomas Bibbins
Birth Date: abt 1849
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1937
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Lanchester
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10b
Page: 302
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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Joseph Bibbins
Birth Date: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1949
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Durham Central
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 259
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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: John Bibbins
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1953
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Durham North Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 508

Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%)
Bibbins Ann Durham 24 49

1891 England Census

Name: Phoebe Murray
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert S Murray
Gender: Female
Where born: Cowsett, Durham, England
Civil parish: Westgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4200
Folio: 145
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert S Murray 39
Phoebe Murray 39
Isaac S Murray 16
Herbert Murray 3
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1901 England Census

Name: Pheobe Murray
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert S Murray
Gender: Female
Where born: Consett, Durham, England
Civil parish: Westgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 4775
Folio: 101
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert S Murray 49
Pheobe Murray 49
Herbert Murray 13
Robert B Murray 8
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1911 England Census

Name: Phebe Murray
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Consett, Durham, England
Civil parish: Westgate
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 100 Douglas Terrace Newcastle On Tyne
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 30618
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Swinburn Murray 59
Phebe Murray 59
Herbert Murray 24

1891 England Census

Name: Thos Bibbins
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Bibbins
Gender: Male
Where born: Consett, Durham, England
Civil parish: Conside and Knitsley
Ecclesiastical parish: Consett
Town: Consett
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Consett
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4090
Folio: 118
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Bibbins 42
Isabella Bibbins 40
Joseph Bibbins 15
Jane Ann Bibbins 12
Jno Bibbins 5
Eliz Bibbins 3
Mary Bibbins 7 Weeks
Eliz Hogg 28
John Hogg 7
Jane Kirkup 10
Michl Kirkup 11
Eliz Kirkup 9
Sarah Kirkup 6
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1901 England Census

Name: Thomas Bibbins
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Bibbins
Gender: Male
Where born: Consett
Civil parish: Consett
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Consett
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Consett
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 170
Piece: 4670
Folio: 93
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bibbins 52
Isabella Bibbins 52
Joseph Bibbins 25
John Bibbins 16
Mary Bibbins 13
Jane A Mace 10

1871 England Census

Name: Phoebe Bibbins
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Ann Bibbins
Gender: Female
Where born: Consett, Durham, England
Civil parish: Conside and Knitsley
Ecclesiastical parish: Consett
Town: Consett
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: Lanchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 4957
Folio: 102
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Bibbins 52
Thos Bibbins 22
Phoebe Bibbins 19
Joseph Walton 3
George Smith 27

1851 England Census about Thomas Bebbins
Name: Thomas Bebbins
[Thomas Bibbins]
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Bebbins
Mother's name: Ann Bebbins
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Couside, Durham, England
Civil parish: Conside and Knitsley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Durham(Street Indexed)
Sub-registration district: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 2389
Folio: 381
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Bebbins 28
Ann Bebbins 32
Elizabeth Bebbins 7
Sarah Bebbins 3
Thomas Bebbins 2
Ann Bebbins 8 Mo



1861 England Census

Name: Sarah Bibbins
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Bibbins
Mother's name: Ann Bibbins
Gender: Female
Where born: Cousett, Durham, England
Civil parish: Conside and Knitsley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: Lanchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Piece: 3732
Folio: 120
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Bibbins 38
Ann Bibbins 42
Sarah Bibbins 13
Thomas Bibbins 12
Phebe Bibbins 9