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jansmith Report 13 Feb 2011 21:55

Do you know what the A stands for in John A Thurlby?

wondered about this death as his birth was registered between Jan-Mar 1918 he could have been born Dec and registered in Jan?
Name: John Alfred Thurlby
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1917
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1986
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 15
Page: 45


jansmith Report 13 Feb 2011 21:57

same thoughts as you tempest!!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 13 Feb 2011 22:55


It's worth adding these names to your tree in case a relative spots them. They might know something about Ada.


Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 14 Feb 2011 15:07

Just a thought re Ada May Alderson............Would it be worth contacting by telephone the local register offices... ie; aukland & lanchester giving her name & fathers name...just in case she has been missed in transcription to gro. ..... I have always found them most helpful....


mouseman Report 14 Feb 2011 17:00

jansmith Registration District Aucland. Register Office

The marriage Certificate for Joseph and Sarah Jane Thurlby 21.08.1918
Joseph Thurlby age 53 Widower-Coalminer-no father's name given
Residence at time of marriage-Chapel Row-Roddymoor-Crook.
Sarah Jane Alderson age 28-Widow-No Rank or profession-
address Flag Row-Sunniside-Crook. Father's name Henry Brankston
Coal Miner.
Witness's R Liddle and Bertram Loades


mouseman Report 14 Feb 2011 17:23

I don't know what the A stands for, was told it could be Albert So more than likely it could be Alfred ?
I know Rachel was born 04.03.1916 I have made contact with Rachel's daughter, Unfortunately Sarah Jane Thurlby ( our Grandmother ) died in 1933 when Rachel was 16 and Rachel's daughter was born 1951 she has no knowledge of John only that her mum said he went missing around the time of his mother;s death.



mouseman Report 16 Feb 2011 16:28

I am overwhelmed with all help and advice given. Thank you all.
I shall be sending for some of the certificates and pray, the right one will be among them.

Watch this space..........



jansmith Report 16 Feb 2011 21:38

1911 for info the Thurlby family
THURLBY, Joseph Head Widower M 49 1862 Stone - Miner In Coal Mine Boston in Linconshire
THURLBY, Mary Daughter Single F 19 1892 Crook Cty of Durham
THURLBY, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 21 1890 Crook Cty of Durham
THURLBY, Margaret Jane Daughter Married F 25 1886 Crook Cty of Durham
THURLBY, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 16 1895 Crook Cty of Durham VIEW
THURLBY, Richard Son Single M 17 1894 Landing - Boy In Coal Mine Underground Crook Cty of Durham
THURLBY, Joseph William Son M 12 1899 School Full Time Crook Cty of Durham

Chapel Row Roddymoor Crook R SO


mgnv Report 16 Feb 2011 22:40

Both the Auckland and Lanchester registers are now at:

County of Durham
The Register Office, Cockton House, 35 Cockton Hill Road, Bishop Auckland, DL14 6HS.
Tel: 01388 607277. Fax: 01388 664388.


Quinsgran Report 17 Feb 2011 01:30

You should have added to this thread your request to find if your mother Ada May Powell nee Alderson remarried after leaving her husband in 1940.

Other members on the other thread are now giving census info you already have.
Keep to the one thread and just change the title to include ( still looking )


mouseman Report 17 Feb 2011 14:38

Thanks for that quinsgran

I am still looking, and am very grateful for all your advice
I don't think my parents were divorced. I know so little about my mother.
My father died 1950 and all hopes of ever finding answers to our questions
died with him.
How does one begin to find out if Ada May Powell remarried ? ladies change their names. I am still looking- if anyone else can shed any lights ????????


Madmeg Report 17 Feb 2011 18:07

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Ada M Powell Name: Ada M Powell
Spouse Surname: Barker
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1941
Registration district: Wetherby
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9a
Page Number: 387
Find Spouse: Find Spouse - Fred Barker

and then...

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Ada M Barker Name: Ada M Barker or Alderson (both names given)
Spouse Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1952
Registration district: Blackpool
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 639
Find Spouse: Find Spouse - John A Jones


Madmeg Report 17 Feb 2011 18:23

Search resultsCivil Registration event: Death
Name: JONES, Ada May

Registration District: Blackpool

County: Lancashire

Year of Registration: 2002

Month of Registration: March

Date of Birth: 17 July 1910

District No: 5811C

Reg No: C11D

Ent No: 251

DOR: 0302

© Crown Copyright


jansmith Report 17 Feb 2011 18:34

Meg that looks good!!!


jansmith Report 17 Feb 2011 18:38

still no match with a birth index


Madmeg Report 17 Feb 2011 18:40

It does, doesn't it. I've sent Margaret a pm to come back and be further overwhelmed. Also a pm with two possible half-siblings who are likely still alive.



mouseman Report 17 Feb 2011 20:24

hello Meg
Happy to be back........ fill me in I don't know what pm means ?
I have found today .Sarah Jane and Thomas Thurlby's children were baptised at Dawson Street-Primitive Methodist Chapel-Crook-Co Durham.
22-3-1916 Rachel d/o Joseph and Sarah Thurlby Grey Street-Crook-Miner
22-12-1917 John Alfred s/o Joseph and Sarah Jane Thurlby of Flag Row-Sunniside-Miner.
I have traced Rachel but I was too late she died 2002- Rachel had one daughter- but she was born 1951- and apart from remembering her mother speaking of Ada May-she could not help me in my search, her mother and Ada May did not keep in touch after their mother died in 1933
John and Rachel lost touch when their Mother died and no contact has been made since. One foot foreward two back.
The Blackpool registration looks promising.
Thanks again


jansmith Report 17 Feb 2011 22:22

Margaret pm -personal message ,Meg sent to you


Madmeg Report 18 Feb 2011 02:17

Margaret, there will be two or three messages from me in your personal email inbox.

I'm a bit disappointed in your remark "The Blackpool registration looks promising". I think you have missed the point. I have just mapped out the rest of your mother's life for you.

Your mother, Ada May Alderson, by marriage became Ada May Powell. She married Fred Barker in Wetherby in 1942, and may have had two children with him. She then married John A Jones in Blackpool in 1952, clearly her, with both her maiden name and one previously married name given. There is no doubt about it.

And she died in Blackpool in 2002.

Her date of birth was given as 17 July 2010.

We all know that is only as accurate as known by the person giving the information.

I expected fireworks after all that effort.



Quinsgran Report 18 Feb 2011 09:27

I think Margaret needs to get the 1952 marriage with both names Barker and Alderson to see if Adas age matches and also if her fathers name is the same