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Dau marriage ?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Frederick Rowbottom Name: Frederick Rowbottom <<School Master
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Louisa Manley
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jul 1848
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Rowbottom <<<School Master
Spouse Father Name: John Christian Manley <<Hair Manufacturer
Register Type: Parish Register

http://archive.org/details/registerofbaptis00stma

JUST COME ACROSS THE FOLLOWING ABOVE VIA GOOGLE: A LIST OF BMD's BETWEEN 1550-1619 & PUBLISHED IN 1898.

IF YOU CAN'T RAISE ON THE ABOVE TRY ENTERING 'ST MARTIN IN THE FIELDS BAPTISMS' IN GOOGLE SEARCH.

thank you to everyone for your help and advice!

charlotte - love the comment about the 3 names versus one! i too only have one name and my YOUNGER sister has 3...just something else to blame my parents for....

looks like I need to search wider for John Christian's first marriage.

vanessa :-)

The ONLY marriage for his name on Ancestry is the one you were given earlier in the thread....if there had been another one, it would have been added.

Looked at the marriages of Manley names in Westminster and found a Thomas Christian Manley marrying Amelia Blackmun or man in St. Martin on 17 Jun 1832, he born about 1811. Looks like one of yours. John & Susan Paxton or Parton are witnesses. Looking at witnesses on others didn't help. He is, I found his baptism in St. Martin with parents as John & Louisa

Richard Christian Manley born 17 Jan 1810 bap 24 Feb 1811

Thought I should mention two baptisms in St. Andrew, Holborn to John and Louisa Manley

Louisa Christiana Elizabeth born 22 Apr 1807 bap 12 Jul

Mary bap 6 May 1809 If I were her I would have had a complex because I got only one name and my sister had three and my birthdate was left out of the baptism record.

Louisa Manley's burial at St. Martin, 7 May 1819, age 33, living in Hunts Cot.

Charlotte

There are two baptisms at St Andrews Holborn for children of John & Louisa Manley.

Louisa Christina Elizabeth on 12 Jul 1807
Mary on 6 Feb 1809

I'll send you the images.
Ken

Vanessa,

The pre-1813 London records that Ancestry has are now at least partially indexed.

hi Flick
no, I don't have an ancestry subscription - i have a 3 month voucher for FMP at the moment - just trying to work out what is best for my needs...
i was told that ancestry only have the marriage records for 1800 until 1834 for St Martin in the Fields and since he was born / bap in 1779 I thought he may hae been married prior to 1800.
nothing came up on the igi....but his second marriage to Sarah Thompson did.

cheers
vanessa

As it isn't on Ancestry, the only other place to look on line is the IGI, which you can access yourself..........

Are you now saying that you have an Ancestry sub?

hi everyone
thanks so much for all your information and your kindness in sourcing registers for me.

may I beg one more look-up???

John Christian Manley married Louisa.

John was christened in 1779 so may have married prior to the 1800's and thus won't be on the ancestry records. the first child baptised (that I can find ) was bap in 1813 (but then that's when the records go from on ancestry so he may have had numerous other children prior to this).
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his children were baptised in St Martin in the Fields, so I have made a sweeping assumption(Yeah, I know.....) that he may have been married there.
he married Sarah Thompson in 1822 (at St Giles), and was a widow then.

thank you again everyone
vanessa

:-) <3

The images available on Ancestry for marriage go from 1800-1834 with some years missing and the baptisms from 1813-1835 and 1848-1856.

Name: Eliza Chapman
Spouse Name: William Everefield Manley
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Nov 1871
Parish: Langham
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Chapman
Spouse Father Name: John Manley
Register Type: Parish Register


The 1844 marriage isn't among the Parish records on Ancestry

I have attempted to send the image of the 1815 John William Manley baptism to Vanessa. Vanessa please say if it arrives OK.

Edit: Vanessa has confirmed that it did.

John Christian was a Hair Preparer.

Name: Amelia Ann Manley
Spouse Name: John William Howard
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Jul 1839
Parish: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John Christian Manley
Spouse Father Name: John Howard
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Amelia Ann Manley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1813
Baptism Date: 18 Jul 1813
Father's Name: John Christian Manley
Mother's Name: Louisa Manley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Westminster St Martin in the Fields
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
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Name: Susanna Harriet Manley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1817
Baptism Date: 22 Jun 1817
Father's Name: John Christian Manley
Mother's Name: Louisa Manley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Westminster St Martin in the Fields
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Betsey Ware Eversfield
Name: Betsey Ware Eversfield
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1826
Christening Date: 22 Sep 1826
Christening Place: Gravesend, Kent, England
Father's Name: William Eversfield
Mother's Name: Betsey

To see the actual registers, you would have to visit the London Metropolitan Archives........or you could subscribe to Ancestry and dowload the images to your computer

Name: John William Manley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1815
Baptism Date: 3 Sep 1815
Father's Name: John Christian Manley ***********************Hair Preparer
Mother's Name: Louisa Manley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Westminster St Martin in the Fields
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

The 1844 marriage would have been registered.......buy the cert for all the details