Genealogy Chat

Thanks Jan.
I did have those census but have never been able to find William or Margaret with the family , or anywhere else for that matter, I think the 1881 is definatly them , in later census,s the Rebecca age 1 mentioned is listed as deaf and dumb living with her grandparents the Welsh,s I do have quite a lot of info on that family but no Margaret or William with them, I think the children were possiably seperated and farmed off to other relatives as Rebecca also never appeared to be with her parents, so back to the drawing board, i keep hoping i will at least find William and Margaret together one day and make the connection,
thanks again Jan,
Margaret.

also this poss. in 1881 BUT not born in Austraila!!!

RG number: RG11
Piece: 3733
Folio: 97
Page: 20
Reg. District: Prescot
Sub District: St Helens
Parish: Windle
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 38, Waterloo St, Windle
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MASON, William Head Married M 24 1857 Saddler
Rainford, Lancashire
MASON, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 21 1860 Saddler Wife
Wigan, Lancashire
MASON, Rebecca Daughter Single F 1 1880
St Helens, Lancashire
WEBSTER, John Lodger Single M 17 1864 Saddlers Apprentice
Rainford, Lancashire

??? 1901
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3287
Folio: 95
Page: 7
Reg. District: Stockport
Sub District: Heaton Norris
Parish: Stockport
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Christ Church
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 85, Bridgefield Street, Stockport
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MASON, William Head Widower M 44 1857 Saddler
South Australia
MASON, William Son Single M 19 1882
St Helens, Lancashire
MASON, Jane Daughter Single F 13 1888
Stockport, Lancashire

Her fathers name was William occupation Sadler Margaret had a brother also named William born 1883, i have his marriage cert - i really do need to get his birth cert, i know of this brother for sure as he was alive when i was a kid and living also in Bolton.
Thanks Margaret.

could this be Margaret in 1891? what was her father's name ? not this one i have just found her with parents in 1911
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2798
Folio: 84
Page: 11
Reg. District: Stockport
Sub District: Stockport First
Parish: Stockport
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas
City/Municipal Borough: Stockport
Address: 45, Ardern Grove, Stockport
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MASON, Frederick T Head Married M 34 1857 Butcher
Sheffield, Yorkshire
MASON, Martha Wife Married F 35 1856
Stockport, Cheshire
MASON, Margaret A Daughter F 4 1887
Stockport, Cheshire
MASON, Florence Daughter F 3 1888
Stockport, Cheshire

that's OK Margaret - was pointing it out again as sometimes posts can be missed when reading through several at once

Ann,
I do have Sabina,s birth certificate and she was born in Oldham in 1908 and not in Bolton as 1911 census said although she always lived in Bolton after she married Herbert, I will look into that birth for Reginald you never know what comes up when you least expect.
sorry I didnt thank you for that Ann.
Margaret :-)

have you considered the Reginald mason I put up above - born Oldham as was Sabina

not Bolton as shown on the 1911 census

Thanks Jan,
It looks like a possiable, my mother did mention there were other children but that they never lived, i think she said they were all still born but im not sure, Margaret Mason still remains a bit of a mystery, I found her in 1901 census in Stockport and recently found her unmarked grave in Heaton Cemetery Bolton with the kind help of the Cemetery Superitendent, no one had visited her grave for 63 years which is sad, I keep getting a bit further slow but sure.
Thanks again for all your help, and good luck in your own research.
Margaret. :-)

without getting certs this is a possible although not likely as census was taken on 2nd of April 1911 and this was registered that quarter
Civil Registration event: Birth
Print Close
Name: LAMB, Herbert
Registration district: Bolton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1911
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 8C
Page no: 312


Name: LAMB, Herbert
Registration district: Bolton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1911
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 0
Volume no: 8C
Page no: 175

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MASON Reginald Oldham Central Oldham MASON OCEN/6/443

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
MASON Reginald 0 Oldham 8d 426



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MASON Sabina Oldham Central Oldham MASON OCEN/11/65

Wow! thanks Jan that must be them, what a star! i cound not find them when i looked, they eventually settled in Bolton Lancashire were they lived the rest of ther lives, Herbert was a musician at one time found him age 14 at Barnes Industrial school for boys in Manchester, and i remember him playing the clarinet and violin when i was a kid. there is some mis spelling which is not unusual - their daughter was named Sabina not Salina she was my mother and an only child so i was surprised they had a child together that didnt survive, is there any detail of when this child was born? thank you again for your time and good detective work.
Margaret :-)

Ask my husband who spent 40yrs in the army (he doesn't read this message board so i can say if i leave his shirts long enough then he does them ;-))

What's ironing?

Thanks Jan, a good puzzle on a Saturday eve is better than doing the ironing :-) :-)

Good spot for the 1911

Nice find Jansmith - you are very good at finding the most obscure things I have noticed!
Interesting change of occupation, but I am pretty sure you are right - thank goodness for Selina!
jan

I can only find the marriage to a Margaret that you have ,i wonder if they put in years married to cover the fact that Salina was born before their marriage, Image says 2 children 1 died

1911
only one i can find?
RG14PN34620 RG78PN2005 RD634 SD3 ED5 SN254
Reg. District: Holyhead
Sub District: Holyhead
Parish: Holyhead Urban
Enum. District: 5
Address: 17 Wynne Street Holyhead
County: Anglesey
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
JONES, Richard Boarder Married M 54 1857 Collier Hewer Holy Well Flintshire
JONES, Elisebith Boarder Married
36 years F 57 1854 Carmarthen Carmarthenshire
LAMB, Herbert Boarder Married M 24 1887 Musician Manchester Lankshire
LAMB, Margret Boarder Married
3 years F 23 1888 Stockport Lankshire
LAMB, Salina Boarder F 2 1909 Bolton Lankshire
ORFORD, Frederick Boarder Married M 48 1863 Wire Worker Penzance Cornwall
ORFORD, Gertrude Boarder Married
11 years F 31 1880 Penzance Cornwall
ORFORD, Mabel Boarder F 10 1901 Wiveliscombe Somerset
ORFORD, Emma Boarder F 8 1903 Plymouth Devon
ORFORD, Ruben Boarder M 5 1906 Tregony Conrwall
ORFORD, John M 3 1908 Higher Dovercourt Essex

Thanks Thelma, didnt see that,- thanks Jan i will have a go at finding them myself now
thanks again
Margaret :-)