Genealogy Chat

Karen Think "synagogue" was originally the Welsh Baptist Tabernacle before a museum - lovely old building. Just by the most famous Ponty landmark which is the old bridge - a superb feat of bridge building in its day. The defunct shopping centre is directly opposite the Museum

Aberdare is a lovely place, I think. Dare Valley is a great place for pony trecking up in the hills, isn't it. The people who run the farm in the centre of Dare Valley are so pleasant and helpful. One of the cwms above Aberdare is one of my favourite places in Wales. It is called Cwmaman. Wonderful wood sculptures, well marked out trail walks and a cafe that is quite extraordinary. For valley prices, you can get a huge variety of tea and coffee, home made cakes and an owner who is really knowledgeable about the history of the village.

I am looking for a James Jones born in Monmouth circa 1801 .He married I believe a Mary Underhill( from Thornbury in Gloucestershire) in Itton Monmouthshire and their first child was a James Jones born in Gloucestershire any help with this family would be gratefully received as it is vert difficult to trace a Jones in Wales

name: James Jones
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 06 Jun 1824
baptism/christening place: St. Philip and St. Jacob's, Bristol, Gloucester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Jones
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C01742-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595982
reference number: item 1 p 191

was the baby or dad james born 1801 i allowed for james senior birth 1801 but if its not right i look again
karen

Thankyou Karen it was James Jones senior who was born in MONmouthshire circa 1800 I was looking for

ok
i look again

John

Did you ever hear anything from Groeswen Chapel? Weren't they going to send you some information? Re: Mary Jane Morgan & David Lewis wedding.

Just curious.

Georgina

sorry i have not been able to find any info on james jones

Georgina

Lady sent me records ( a book she called it) and it got lost in post. Just a covering letter arrived. So someone in Cardiff sorting office knows a lot about the Welsh records at Groeswen.

I have had an answer phone message from Mair (the Church Secretary) asking if they have been discovered and if I want a further set sent. Will ring her on Saturday morning. So haven't forgotten you :-) :-)

Thanks again John. What a shame the records got lost. Hopefully something will come from all this.

Georgina :-(

Georgina Getting a second copy of Groeswen records this week :-D :-D Mair was quite upset they had got lost and no one had handed the book in.

They have their monthly service next weekend and it is a proper Harvest Festival which is usually well attended. I said "would it be tins and packets or would church look like a Fruit & Veg shop". She chuckled and said firmly, the latter. Real agricultural area - yet so close to mining villages like Senghennydd. :-D

John. It's amazing where things can end up when they are posted off. It is unfortunate because the information is likely of no use to anyone else.

The Harvest Festival sounds like fun. Thoroughly enjoyable I should think.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Georgina

Hi. They have added a lot of Welsh parish records to the familysearch site. :-)

Many thanks, Daisy :-D

Online index of over 23,500 Welsh Merchant Mariners - masters, mates and engineers from 1800 to 1945.

Another free one

http://www.welshmariners.org.uk/

http://archive.org/search.php?query=wales%20registers


click read on line

you can also download them

Hi Daisy

Thanks. I am aware of the Welsh Parish records on Family Search. Not so sure I care for their new format. Oh well, I can only keep trying.

Georgina :-)

Georgina

Got book this morning. Insufficient postage, so had to go and collect it from main sorting office.

It is not what I thought. It is a 48 page booklet about history of Groeswen 1742-1992.

Reading through it slowly, as it is in Welsh. Only thing so far to report is that one of the deacons in 1915 was Thomas LEWIS of Hendredenny Uchaf.

But will keep looking. And put it on my list when I go to Ponty Library at end of November.
:-D

John

Thanks. I really appreciate all the trouble you going through concerning this.

The Lewis side isn't causing any problems, but the Morgan side is a real puzzler. I have been rechecking the census. It would seem likely I can discard any that aren't Welsh speaking.

Thanks again. I shall keep plugging away from this end.

Georgina :-)

I just stumbled across this thread and it makes fascinating reading as my father, David Ellis, who is now 93, an ex-teacher and living in Monmouth, was born and grew up in a family of coal miners in Aberdare. He lived for a time in a house with his parents and his great grandfather on his mother's side, a man called John Bowen, who claimed there were two things he would never have in his house, English and electricity. The English reference becomes more obvious when I found out that he had 'emigrated' from Ferryside in West Wales where Welsh is more prevalent.

My Dad's great great grandfather on his father's side was a man called Edward Ellis from Hope in Flintshire and married Barbara Williams from Mold. He was, you guessed it, a coal miner too and moved down to Aberdare presumably for work.
If anyone wants more information to establish and possible links then please respond. Key names are Ellis, Elias, Bowen, Price and others.

Some great sites suggested on here by the way for further research too.