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Hi,
Trying to find right Veysey in the census
The family I am looking for has at least three siblings:
William H Veysey born c1869 in England died in Gloversville, Fulton County, New York in 1946
Mary A Veysey born in England c1860 married Garrison T Beneway in the USA, and died in 1957 in Gloversville.
Minnie Veyvey birth date unknown but according to sister's obituary is alive in 1957 living is Sussex, England as Minnie Jessop.
i would be grateful for any information
Regards
Mark

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1901 England Census about William Veysey
Name: William Veysey
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Veysey
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Ippollitts
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Wymondley All Saints and St Ippolyts
Town: Ippollitts
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 1300
Folio: 40
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Veysey 36
Emily Veysey 32
William Veysey 8
Minnie Veysey 5
Lillian Veysey 4
Frederick Veysey 2
Daisey Veysey 7

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1300; Folio: 40; Page: 10.

Hi,
No I don't think that is the right family,

William H veysey emigrates to America in 1893, and marries my grand aunt Charlotte Smith and they are in America in every census until his death in 1946.

Regards
Mark

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Name: W H VEYSEY
Date of departure: 6 April 1895
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1869 (calculated from age)
Age: 26
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Painter
Passenger recorded on: Page 9 of 20



Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
PARIS
Frederick Watkins
New York, USA
13523
5568
940

For ref

Living next door to each other

1910 United States Federal Census
about Garrison Beneway
Name: Garrison Beneway
Age in 1910: 65
Birth Year: 1845
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1910: Gloversville Ward 5, Fulton, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maud B Beneway
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Garrison Beneway 65
Maud B Beneway 49


and

1910 United States Federal Census
about William H Veysey
Name: William H Veysey
Age in 1910: 39
Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Gloversville Ward 5, Fulton, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1895
[1892]
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lottie Veysey
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William H Veysey 39
Lottie Veysey 40
Winfred L Veysey 5


Andy

Hello Mark - you haven't said which census you want to find them in - England or US? Which years?

Could this be Minnie's death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Minnie A Jessop
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1959
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Sidcup
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 999


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Minnie Annie Jessop
Probate Date: 14 Apr 1959
Death Date: 20 Feb 1959
Death Place: Kent, England
Registry: London, England

Widow, of The Oak House, Holbrook Lane, Chiselhurst. Died Queen Mary Hospital, Sidcup. Probate to Albert Walter Jessop, civil servant. Effects £285 3s 8d

Hi,

Thanks for all for pointers.

Regards
Mark

I am not sure if the death Marie Celeste found is right .As this looks like the Albert Walter in the Probate - Jessie's son:

Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
Jessop Albert Walter Camberwell 1d 941

1911 England Census
about Minnie Jessop
Name: Minnie Jessop
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: England
Civil parish: Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 45 Harders Road, Peckham S E
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 9
Estimated Marriage Year: 1902
Occupation: LAUNDRY MANAGERESS
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration District Number: 27
Sub-registration district: Peckham South
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 2576
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Jessop 36
Minnie Jessop 32
Walter A Jessop 8
Lawrence Jessop 4

Looks as if Minnie married as Potter:

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
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JACKMAN Helen Blanche L M Camberwell 1d 1456
Jessop Henry Albert Camberwell 1d 1456
LACEY Thomas James Camberwell 1d 1456
Potter Minnie Annie Camberwell 1d 1456

And she is on all censuses as Potter with no William or Mary in the family.

Yes, that looks right Potty.

Mark - you're welcome re: the pointers but we could try to help further if you answer what's been asked, i.e. "you haven't said which census you want to find them in - England or US? Which years?"

:-)

Hi MarieCeleste,

Sorry, I wasn't clear but I did say that I have them in America, it's the English Census that I am looking

Regards
Mark

Mark, I cannot find anything for them - no births, no census results.

Do you have any marriage certs with a father's name?

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Groom's Name: Theodore Beneway
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Anne Veysey
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 08 Jun 1883
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Isaac Beneway
Groom's Mother's Name: Rosetta Lovies
Bride's Father's Name: Wm. Veysey
Bride's Mother's Name: Ann Lavercombe
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00126-4
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1570109
Reference Number:

Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
Lavercombe Ann Barnstaple 10 41 Scan available - click to view
Veysey William Barnstaple 10 41

Possible in 1871 - but no Mary Ann:

1871 England Census
about William Veysey
Name: William Veysey
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Veysey
Gender: Male
Where born: Knowstone, Devon, England
Civil parish: St Marys Church
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Torquay
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 218
Piece: 2089
Folio: 30
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
William Veysey 41
Ann Veysey 40
Emma Veysey 19
Eliza Veysey 12
John Veysey 8
Eva A Veysey 6
William H Veysey 3

Daughter Winnifred's marriage is here:

http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

She married John Frinks in 1930.

Same site has an obit for Mrs. Maria Dare born Yeovil, England 1865.
Brothers Nathaniel Smith, Gloversville, William Smith, England.
Sisters Mrs.William Veysey, Gloversville, Mrs. E.A. Poole, Nottingham, England.

Another obit for Mrs. Jane Smith Maidment, 1917.
Brothers William Smith, Yeovil, England, Robert and David Nathaniel, Gloversville.
Sisters Mrs. Richard Pool, Nottingham, England, Mrs. William Dare and Mrs. William Veysey, Gloversville.

Name: Rosetta Beneway
Event: Census
Event Date: 1850
Event Place: Fishkill, Dutchess, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Marital Status:
Race (Original):
Race (Standardized):
Birthplace: New York
Estimated Birth Year: 1814
Dwelling House Number: 1209
Family Number: 1617
Line Number: 8
NARA Publication Number: M432
NARA Roll Number: 496
Film Number: 17072
Digital Folder Number: 004196820
Image Number: 00224
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Isaac Beneway M 38 New York
Rosetta Beneway F 36 New York
Chas W Beneway M 8 New York
Garret P Beneway M 7 New York
Sarah M Beneway F 3 New York
Sarry Beneway F 60 New York

Think I have found Minnie! William and Ann had a daughter Alice Amelia in 1872:

1891 England Census
about Alice Amelia Veysey
Name: Alice Amelia Veysey
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Veysey
Mother's Name: Ann Veysey
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingskerswell, Devon, England

Civil parish: Kingskerswell
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingskerswell
Town: Kingskerswell
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

William Veysey 55
Ann Veysey 54
William Veysey 22
Alice Amelia Veysey 19

Alice Amelia marriage to Jessop:

Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)

Bowden Emily Newton A. 5b 313
JESSOP Bertrand Newton A. 5b 313
Setter William Newton A. 5b 313
Vesey Alice Amelia Newton A. 5b 313