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Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
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Edwards John Edward Wellington, Sh. 6a 1557
Woolgar Rosannah Wellington,Sh. 6a 1557

Just think BJ, my mother has died her hair blond for years, now its natural, saves her loads of money. I'm still at the stage of paying!

Sorry Julie, just having a "senior" moment!

Soz Jax - you are getting down to the serious business why I'm having a senior moment!

Family in1901

1901 England Census
about Rosehannah Edwards
Name: Rosehannah Edwards
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Edward Edwards
Gender: Female
Where born: Wellington, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Dawley
Ecclesiastical parish: Dawley Magna Holy Trinity
Town: Dawley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Registration district: Madeley
Sub-registration district: Dawley
John Edward Edwards 44
Rosehannah Edwards 44
Harriett Fisher 19
Hannah Eliz Edwards 18
William Henry Edwards 16
William Woolgar Fisher 13
Enoch Edwards 12
Alice Woolgar Fisher 11
Cyril Woolgar Fisher 9
Fanny Woolgar 7

Actually, I did have a blonde/grey moment there - lost the original query regarding getting a cert!
Maybe you do need to purchase this Julie.
Jan

She could well be Fanny's daughter but the cert is needed in this case

1891 England Census
about Susannah Fisher
Name: Susannah Fisher
[Rosannah Fisher]
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lawley Common, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Dawley Magna
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Dawley Magna
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England


Registration district: Madeley
Sub-registration district: Dawley

Susannah Fisher 34
Ann Eleanor Fisher 12
Rosannah Fisher 6
Eliza Fisher 5
William Fisher 3
Alice Fisher 2
William Woolgar 41

Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Fisher Rosannah Prestwich 8d 525
WOOLGAR William Prestwich 8d 525

1881 England Census
about Rose Hannah Fisher
Name: Rose Hannah Fisher
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Fisher
Gender: Female
Where born: Wellington, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Wellington
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address: Lawley Common
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Wellington
George Fisher 21
Rose Hannah Fisher 23
Joseph Charles Fisher 4
Ann Eleanor Fisher 2

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Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
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Fisher George Salford 8d 77
Fisher Rosannah Salford 8d 77

hi everyone
not been on for a while hope you dont mind my coming back i just read jax note it looks to me that fanny is alices mum you cant adopt a child at seventeen you have to be 21 years older than the child unless it is a relative and then you have to be 21 this happened to me i was of to court when the welfare officer came home and told me this. As i was 17 yrs and my nephew 4yrs as i had been looking after him for 2yrs i was still only 19 so i had to wait for my 21st birthday i finely adopted him then he was at this time 6yrs now he is 48 yrs how time flys

sylvia

Ok so Ive confused people..(also Blonde myself lol) Alice (my dads mom) was assumed" adopted by a lady called Fanny. However Fanny had the SAME surname on the 1911 census as Alice. Fanny was 17, so putting 2 and 2 together and probably getting 5! I wondered if Fanny could have been the mom but nan and grandad wouldnt allow it. then later on in life, Fanny said she had adopted Alice but really was her mom???? Im just guessing this as its a coindicence in 1911 they had same surname. And infact a brother or half brother of Fanny in the 1911 census had the surnane "woolgar Fisher" so again, is it the same Woolger gene I wonder. I think I need to try and find out who Rosannah was before married Edwards as she had only been married to him for 11 year and Fanny was 17, so obviously not his child. Are you still with me :)

And I have ordered the Birth Cert so hopefully that might shed some light :) Just a waiting game, and Im so impatient once I start something

Julie, after all that you must let us know the result!
jan

Julie did you not look at the other Census's I posted showing Rosannah or Rose Hannah and her three marriages?

I dont think Julie realises there are two pages

will pm her

oh dear, what am I like - didnt reaslise to turn over the page, takes me back to school exams lol. Anyway Jax, thank you for your email, I will print off all your census findings, certainly more information for me to look at and I 'm better looking at it on old fashioned paper so I can write notes. (and I cannot print off now as Arsenal are playing and my husband will moan ;-) ) Im beginning to realise that just becase they are called one name on one census or certificate, they can change, happended when researching my grandad, Knew him as Sonny, my Dad said his name was Henry, found Death sert but no Birth cert, still couldnt find him then found him under Thomas Henry!! You've really been helpful. I will update more tomorrow.

After compiling all the info From Jax (thankyou) Fanny still is the favourite as potential mother to Alice, but of course there were 2 other Woolgar siblings from Rosannah that although not living in the house in the 1911 census could have had a child that they needed to home with the grandparents. So I definitely need to wait for the Birth ceertificate. In the mean time can you give me some adive as to where I need to go to find out more information such as occupations for some of the people already in the tree. Ive tired the Parish records on this site but most of the time they dont have the person listed, any hints appreciated.

Fanny was alice,'s mom :-) . Now all I need to do is find who the father was..Ihave anotherquestion if I may,on my mothers side I have found a paper copy of my grandmother birth cert but it doesn'tlist the parents.There is a referencenumber. Whatis this for and will it take me to anotherdocument that might list the parents? Thanks

Thanks for letting us know Julie

Who was your grandmother and where and when was she born please?

Julie

Is it a short form birth certificate that you have found?? That doesn't show the parents.


You will have to buy the long certificate to get the information.




sylvia

Eva cavell Thomas. 17 Oct 1917 in Chester.

This looks like Eva and sisters.

Births Jun 1915 Thomas Vera M Lloyd Chester 8a 701
Births Dec 1917 Thomas Eva C Lloyd Chester 8a 521 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Births Dec 1919 Thomas Sybil B Lloyd Chester 8a 679
Births Jun 1923 THOMAS Joan Lloyd Chester 8a 636


This is the only Thomas/Lloyd marriage in Chester at about the right time. However this possibly isn't your couple, or David Thomas married Selina William.

Marriages Sep 1906
LLOYD Amy Elizabeth Chester 8a 840 <<<<<
THOMAS David Chester 8a 840 <<<<<<
TYLER William Charles Chester 8a 840
Williams Selina Chester 8a 840