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Kerin

Kerin Report 6 Oct 2012 21:11

I have a relative who in his employment states he is an Ironworker/Falconer

Now apart from the obvious job as working with birds of prey does anyone on here know what kind of job a Falconer would be in regard to Iron working. I have tried to google but cant see anything

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Oct 2012 21:32

Can you post the census details so it can be checked out

Researching:
Suzy (8.4.2013) and Sally (16.8.2011) Gone but not forgotten. Researching Carter, Cass, Walker in England and Caven, McKill, Sutherland and Will in Scotland. PLEASE DO NOT: send me information concerning your thread on the board as it should be posted on your request where all members can see it.. PLEASE DO NOT: ask me for help with lookups as they should be placed on the boards to get the best possible result. PLEASE DO NOT: open your tree just because I have posted information on your thread as I will not be related. Thank you.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 6 Oct 2012 22:52

could it be Ironmonger / Feroner?

Ironmonger / Feroner was a Hardware merchant

http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/i-k.html#I

was it a transcription error? best to check the actual image

Roy

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 6 Oct 2012 23:12

Could it be Ironworker / Planer badly written?


As GlitterBaby said above, if you post the census details someone will look at the image for you.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Oct 2012 23:43

Just one thought


it could have been Ironworker/Falconer



he might have been paid to work as an Ironworker, but his hobby was Falconer

Researching:
Panda, China, 2008 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

PigletsPal

PigletsPal Report 7 Oct 2012 12:41

Feroner does make more sense as it is a word derived from Iron (Ferous, FE)

Researching:
We are all of us in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars

John

John Report 8 Oct 2012 10:59

@ Kerin. You couldn't post the census reference for this ironworker gentleman, could you please, so that we/I can take a look?

Kerin

Kerin Report 8 Oct 2012 13:03

Hi

Its not on the census record but on his WW1 army record. Ancestry transcribed it as Falconer and I know that there can be transcribing errors on Ancestry and it kind of looks like falconer but to be honest I'm not having my doubts and it may ever say Labourer. I'm normally very good at reading old writing

Does anyone know if we can attach an image onto here or if someone wants to message me via genesreunited with their email address I can always sent it via email for a second opinion. Or if anyone out there has a subscription to Ancestry its the WW1 record for a Samuel Jones

Link to record
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=BritishArmyService&h=1057436&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=1543

KenSE

KenSE Report 8 Oct 2012 14:00

I think it is Labourer. Compare it with the F in Flintshire and the L in Lead.

Kerin

Kerin Report 8 Oct 2012 14:36

I think you may be right

Sorry to be very silly and waste everyone's time

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 8 Oct 2012 15:13

Falcons were used in wartime to bring down messenger pigeons. Not that the Falcons knew the difference.

Researching:
Robb, Purves, Rutherford, Bald - Scotland, Fife and Berwickshire.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Oct 2012 15:34

I agree, def. labourer.
Jan

Researching:
Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham

KenSE

KenSE Report 8 Oct 2012 16:50

Kerin, you are not being silly, I have often mis read old handwriting, as I am sure many others have. As for time wasting, I certainly learned things from the above posts and from a bit of Googling, and we all enjoy these challenges.

Ken

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Oct 2012 18:11

Certainly not silly! Lots of people back then had 2 completely different occupations listed, so it was always a possibility. At least you read it as a reasonable word - you should see some of the barmy mis-transcriptions I have come across!

For a recent example, have a look here:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1311494

Jan

Researching:
Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 8 Oct 2012 19:19

Have you checked what his occupation was listed as on the 1911 census

Roy

John

John Report 9 Oct 2012 12:18

I'm glad this problem was settled - needless to say I can't pick up the record (due to browser problem), but it came to me yesterday lunch-time after my previous request - and without seeing any record - that he may have been a ironworker/fettler. Usually the two trades come together. But if he were a falconer, he'd be indispensible to enemy message interception as was hinted at above.