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Martyn Report 10 Oct 2012 23:43

This has been so helpful. A lot of what you have found out I had been gradually piecing together and I have even found out that one of the kids went to live with her aunt in Worcester and another as a housemaid to a rich lady in Clifton, Bristol, after Hannah died. But key pieces of information were eluding me. You'll be pleased to know that you have filled in the gap about John and Hannah's marriage. I had a couple pf possibilities for Hannah's maiden name but neither were correct. Looks as though you have nailed it. I was only using GR and trying to find other sources for baptism and marriage records, so thanks for that. It looks ad though it's worth trawling through other sites too. This has opened up lots more possibilities to research further back.
All the best


Martyn Report 10 Oct 2012 23:52

I'll have to get my head round your last post as it's late and I'm getting the names mixed up. But the Haynes/Lawrence combination will definitely need unravelling.


Ozibird Report 10 Oct 2012 23:57

I've got to go too, and START my day.

Happy hunting,


Martyn Report 12 Oct 2012 23:11

Ozbird, I think you may have indeed uncovered a coincidence in your last post but I am still trying to get my head around it. What I think I may have found is that Hannah Haynes' husband Richard Haynes is not with her in the 1841 census (she is living alone with Mary) - but I have a terrible feeling Richard was banged up in the County Gaol and House of Correction in Claines , Worcester. It all seems to fit and he is indeed down as a 'prisoner wheelwright'. Am trying to find out more but if you have any insights please let me know.


Martyn Report 12 Oct 2012 23:38

Ozbird - repeat last post which seems to have disappeared. Your 'oh my goodness' post I am still trying to get my head round but it is certainly worth further investigation. But I think I have also found Richard Haynes banged up in the County Gaol and House of Correction, Claines, North Worcester in the 1841 census, aged 55, which would account for Hannah living alone with Mary. But having looked up the prison calendar for the prison
a Richard Haines (sic) appears in his 20s but no other mentioned so not sure what to believe. I don't know if there are any other avenues left.


K Report 13 Oct 2012 06:47

The calander of prisoners at the Worcester listed the people after their hearings by quarter between 1839-1849.

If Richard Haynes had been convicted and was already in prison pre 1839 he would not be included on this list.


Martyn Report 13 Oct 2012 14:22

Thanks K, that's useful yo know. I'd love to know what he did.


K Report 13 Oct 2012 15:01

I work in Worcester. The Record Office is now part of the Hive.

If you ask them if they have prisoners detials prior to 1839 I am happy to go and check them


Martyn Report 15 Oct 2012 09:38

Thanks K,
I'll let you know when I have time time to ask them.


Martyn Report 16 Oct 2012 09:09

Do you mind telling me where you found the details on your 'Oh my goodness, coincidence?' post.
Thanks a lot


mgnv Report 16 Oct 2012 11:48

Re: "Do you mind telling me where you found the details on your 'Oh my goodness, coincidence?' post."

From collections at®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch ( : accessed 16 Oct 2012), Richard Haynes and Hannah Lawrence, 22 Jan 1805; citing reference , FHL microfilm 415132, 415133, 415134, 415135, 561598.
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch ( : accessed 16 Oct 2012), Hannah Lawrence, 24 Apr 1785; citing reference , FHL microfilm 465271.


Ozibird Report 16 Oct 2012 20:52

Thanks, mgnv.

BTW, Martyn, is a free site.



Martyn Report 17 Oct 2012 15:39

Thanks Ozi, much appreciated. I'll see what else I can find.