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Birth Records for 1834

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Tracy

Tracy Report 13 Nov 2012 17:16

Basic question but I'm struggling to find a birth record for a relative John Yeomans born 1834 (+/- 1 year) in Westminister London. Is this too early for official birth records and am I into parish records now?

I manage to find a census record for him in 1861 where he is married but when his wife and family next appear in the 1891 census he's not listed on the record and his Wife Elizabeth lists her self as head and occupation Confectioner no mention of widow.

In 1861 his occupation is listed as Cow Keeper.

He got Married to Elizabeth Dedman in 1859.

Just can't find anything before 1859 for him.....

Thanks
Tracy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Nov 2012 17:29

Yes civil registration was introduced in 1837

Roy

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2012 17:30

1871?

1871 England Census
about John Yeomans
Name: John Yeomans
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Yeomans
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster
Civil parish: Kew
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester
Town: Kew
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 869
Folio: 145
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
John Yeomans 37
Elizabeth Yeomans 30
Isabella Page 24
Alice M Page 8 Months


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2012 17:34

1851??

Odd record

1851 England Census
about John Yeomans
Name: John Yeomans
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Comley
Mother's name: Phillippa Comley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Westminster St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub-registration district: Golden Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 6c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 314
Piece: 1485
Folio: 282
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Comley 58
Phillippa Comley 65
Sarah Way 45
John Yeomans 17
Caharine Yeomans 26


Andy


Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2012 17:36

1841??

1841 England Census
about John Yeomans
Name: John Yeomans
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Anne Soho
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Anne Westminster
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 730
Book: 5
Folio: 30
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
William Yeomans 18
John Yeomans 8
Catherine Yeomans 20
Mary Yeomans 14
Elizabeth Yeomans 12
George Norris 30
George Norris 7
Amelia Norris 30
Amelia Norris 11




Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Nov 2012 17:38

His marriage cert should name his father if known,
Name: John Yeomans
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1859
Registration district: Westminster St Margaret
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 516

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Nov 2012 17:44

Wondered about this one, but without father's name impossible to say:

Name: John Dawre Yoomans
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Jul 1833
Father's Name: John Yoomans
Mother's name: Mary Ann Yoomans
Parish or Poor Law Union: Westminster St Anne Soho
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Nov 2012 23:41

The marriage isn't among those for London transcribed by Ancestry, so the cert will be the only way to get accurate info about his father's details - assuming he knew him

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Nov 2012 07:35

1861
YEOMANS, John Head Married M 27 1834 Cow Keeper
Westminster, Middlesex
YEOMANS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 21 1840
Marylebone, Middlesex
Piece: 49
Folio: 144
Page: 2
Registration District: Westminster
Civil Parish: St John the Evangelist
Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: 26, Horseferry Road, St John The Evangelist, Westminster
County: London

(below, from Pallots, Ancestry)

Name: Jno Daivre? Yeomans
Baptism Date: 1833
Parent 1: Jno Yeomans
Parent 2: Mary AnnYeomans
Parish: St. Anne
County: Soho, Middlesex

Name: Fredk Yeomans
Baptism Date: 1833 (Born 1826)
Parent 1: Jno Yeomans
Parent 2: Mary AnnYeomans
Parish: St. Anne
County: Soho, Middlesex

Name: Mary Ann Yeomans
Baptism Date: 1835 (Born 1828)
Parent 1: Jno Yeomans
Parent 2: MaryYeomans
Parish: St. Anne
County: Soho, Middlesex

Baptism (Find My Past)
First names:Alexander
Surname:Yeomans
Baptism year:1825
Baptism month:May
Baptism day:1
Parish:St Anne, Westminster
County:Middlesex
Page:483
Birth year:1824
Birth month:Sep
Birth day:6
Father's First names:John (occ. Tailor)
Mother's First names:Mary
Record source:Westminster Baptisms- Transcripts
Data provider:Westminster Archives

Chris :)

1881
YEOMAN, John Head Married M 47 1834 Coachman
Westminster, Middlesex
YEOMAN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 40 1841
Marylebone, Middlesex
NOY, ? Boarder Single F 44 1837 Annuitant
Marylebone, Middlesex
Piece: 1351
Folio: 77
Page: 64
Registration District: Brentford
Civil Parish: Chiswick
Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Chertsey Road, Chiswick
County: Middlesex

1891
YEOMANS, John Head Married M 57 1834 Laundryman
Westminster, London
YEOMANS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 50 1841 Laundress
Marylebone, London
DIDMAN, Margaret Niece Single F 38 1853 Living On Her Means
Islington, London
BACON, Georgina Niece F 13 1878 Scholar
Lambeth, London
Piece: 1034
Folio: 179
Page: 7
Registration District: Brentford
Civil Parish: Chiswick
Municipal Borough:
Address: Lime Tree House, Strand On The Green, Chiswick
County: Middlesex

1911
YEOMANS, John Head Married M 77 1834 Laundryman St Margarets Westminster
YEOMANS, Elizabeth Wife Married50 years F 70 1841 Laundress Marylebone
BASON, Georgina Margaret Niece Single F 34 1877 Laundress Lambeth
RG number: RG14
Piece: 6848
Reference: RG14PN6848 RG78PN341 RD128 SD2 ED15 SN192
Registration District: Brentford
Sub District: Twickenham
Enumeration District: 15
Parish: Twickenham
Address: 11 Station Road Twickenham
County: Middlesex


Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
BACON George Samuel Wandsworth 1d 738
DEDMAN Louisa Ellen Wandsworth 1d 738


Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------
BACON Georgina Margaret Lambeth 1d 381

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Nov 2012 09:15

(is this Elizabeth below, who you refer to in 1891?)

1891
YEOMANS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 51 1840 Confectioner
Westminster, London
YEOMANS, William Alfred Son Single M 24 1867 Assistant Warehouseman
Hoxton, London
YEOMANS, Arthur John Son Single M 19 1872 Assistant Collarman
Bermondsey, London
YEOMANS, Henry Thomas Son Married M 18 1873 Railway Cash Clerk
Bermondsey, London
YEOMANS, Louisa Jane Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Bermondsey, London
YEOMANS, Ada Annie Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Bermondsey, London
Piece: 379
Folio: 142
Page: 41
Registration District: St Olave Southwark
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Municipal Borough: Bermondsey
Address: 319, Lynton Road, Bermondsey
County: London

Chris :)

edits (looking at childrens Baptisms, Father named as William)