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Suzanne

Suzanne Report 19 Nov 2012 23:19

Is there anyone who can give me any suggestions where to find out the above please. I have a relative who was known by the name of Polly but cannot find any records for her. I think she was born around 1889. Thank you

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 19 Nov 2012 23:26

It might just be a pet name, but might be a diminutive of Mary?
Why not post what you have for her and we can double-check for you.
Jan

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Nov 2012 23:55

Polly = Mary



KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Nov 2012 00:51

The two Pollys that I know are both called Mary.

Kath. x

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Nov 2012 07:22

It could also be Polly ....... ie, a name in its own right

wisechild

wisechild Report 20 Nov 2012 07:29

I knew a Pauline who was known as Polly.

Janet

Janet Report 20 Nov 2012 15:48

I have a Polly on my tree who was christened Mary Ann if that's any help

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Nov 2012 23:33

Thank you, will look into Mary and if not successful will get back to you again. Thanks

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 21 Nov 2012 10:08

Ditto - knew a Pauline called Polly

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 21 Nov 2012 10:55

I have two Pollys who were registered Polly and a Polly registered Mary Ann.

I was once told that Polly can be Mary Ann, Molly can be Mary Jane and Jennie can be Jane Ann.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 21 Nov 2012 21:20

Thank you all,

I don't yet have this lady on my tree yet. Its abit of a long story. My mother was born in 1934 and for her 3rd birthday in 1937 she received a birthday card, which I still have, signed from Aunty Polly and Philip. The story goes that there was an Aunt who never married but adopted a boy called Philip who was reputed to go down in WW II on a ship called The Hood. This ship does exist. The surname on my mother's maternal side was Esterbrook and on her paternal side it was Capenerhurst so this lady could be either as she never married. Hope this gives more of the information to help. Thank you.

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 21 Nov 2012 22:10

HMS Hood is famous, having been sunk by the Bismark in May 1941, with only a handful of survivors. There are various websites, including one with crew lists, but without a surname it will be difficult. Philip may not have had the same surname as Aunt Polly.

Assuming Aunt Polly was a relative and not just a close family friend (I had lots of non-related aunts and uncles when I was a child) then I think you need the names of all your grandparents' sisters and see whether any of them look possible.

Good luck.

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 22 Nov 2012 10:29

Have just looked through the Commonwealth War Graves site. (Your Philip might not have been covered by this site).

Apart from the Philips with the mothers Esther, Gwendoline and Maud, the only other Philips (parents names not given) are Philip James Bucket and Philip John Dawson.

As I say, maybe your Philip isn't mentioned on this site, but these two names could give you somewhere to start looking.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 22 Nov 2012 11:57

Thank you ChristinaS, willlook when I get back off shift :-)

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 22 Nov 2012 15:45

http://hmshood.com/crew/memorial/roh_24may41.htm

The above site is a list of all the men lost on board HMS Hood. Some have more info than others and a lot have photos attached.

Fortunately Philip is not a common name and there are only 4. There are several with P as a second initial, which I did not look at.

Ordinary Seaman Philip R Baldwin, known as Roger, age 23.
Stoker 1st Class Philip A Ball, from Salisbury, age 20.
Signal Boy Phillip J Dawson, known as Jack, from Rochdale, age 17.
Stoker 1st Class Philip Lloyd, age 50.

If you know where your mother was living in 1937, that might narrow it down a bit.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2012 19:53

Marriages Dec 1925
Capenerhurst Albert L Esterbrook Leicester 7a 676
Esterbrook Lavina M Capenerhurst Leicester 7a 676


1911

Name: Albert Lawrence Capenerhurst
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 24 Worthington Street Leicester
Occupation: School
Registration district: Leicester
Registration District Number: 407
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 19235
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Capenerhurst 47
Clara Capenerhurst 47
Clara Blanche Capenerhurst 25
Joseph Leon Capenerhurst 22
Harold Capenerhurst 15
Albert Lawrence Capenerhurst 12
Evelyn Mary Capenerhurst 6

Married 27 years, 7 children born, 6 living 1 had died.

1911

Name: Lavinia Mary Esterbrook
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 32 Ridley St Leicester
Registration district: Leicester
Registration District Number: 407
Sub-registration district: South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Piece: 19311
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert Esterbrook 40
Mercy Lavinia Esterbrook 30
Lavinia Mary Esterbrook 10
Evelyn Gertrude Esterbrook 9
Caroline Faith Esterbrook 7
Harry Esterbrook 3
Ethel May Esterbrook 1

Married 11 years, 7 children born, 5 living 2 had died.


So Albert's sister Evelyn Mary could have been know as Polly? Or Lavinia's sister Ethel May could have been known as Polly? But both to young to be the correct Polly if you think that she was born around 1890.



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Nov 2012 20:24

Looking to see if any of the female siblings of Albert or Lavinia married.

Marriages Dec 1911
Anderson Herbert E Leicester 7a 632
Capenerhurst Clara B Leicester 7a 632
Hill Harriet M Leicester 7a 632
WOODS Arthur Leicester 7a 632


Not seeing a marriage for Evelyn M Caperenhurst at the moment or a death.

Lavinia's sister Caroline was unmarried

Name: Caroline Faith E Esterbrook
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1903
Date of Registration: Sep 1993
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Register Number: I10C
District and Subdistrict: 6001I
Entry number: 56


Ethel May Married.

Name: Ethel M Esterbrook
Spouse Surname: Marshall
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1932
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 536


Suzanne

Suzanne Report 22 Nov 2012 20:26

my nan was Mary but known as polly. :-)