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Annabel

Annabel Report 13 Dec 2012 03:10

Where can I look to see who lived at 5 Temple st Lambeth in the 1891 census.

Have a William Jones born 1883 at school

Walnut Tree Walk School
Address: KENNINGTON ROAD
Borough: Lambeth

his father George Jones Address 5 Temple st



thank you Annabel

jax

jax Report 13 Dec 2012 04:14

Not seeing a number 5 in 1891 on find my past

John

John Report 13 Dec 2012 12:20

There's a Temple Street listed for Southwark/St George the Martyr Southwark, which may come under Lambeth, but a cursory look at these doesn't reveal a George Jones.

A wild guess, but there happens to be a George Jones on the Kennington Road, Lambeth 1891 393. 69. 5

Potty

Potty Report 13 Dec 2012 12:45

Did you find William's info on the census? I am having trouble finding him in 1891.

John

John Report 13 Dec 2012 12:51

If you're asking ME, Potty - no, I haven't. Kennington Road is one big road!

Potty

Potty Report 13 Dec 2012 13:05

Sorry, John, I was asking Annabel! Just wondering where she got her info from as I have never seen that sort (ie father's name and address) on any school census.

I have found a William Jones in the 1901 census living near Walnut Tree Walk and just wondered if there was a connection.

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Dec 2012 13:16

For INFO

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name: William Jones
Age: 7
Birth Date: Oct 1883
School: Walnut Tree Walk School
Address: KENNINGTON ROAD
Borough: Lambeth
Admission Date: 2 Mar 1891
Parent: George Jones
Notes: Walnut Tree Walk School (0304) opened in 1875. Remodelled in 1907
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/WAL/AD/001

5 Temple Street, is recorded in the 'residence' column in the admission book

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Dec 2012 13:16

The information is from this database on Ancestry

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name: William Jones
Age: 7
Birth Date: Oct 1883
School: Walnut Tree Walk School
Address: KENNINGTON ROAD
Borough: Lambeth
Admission Date: 2 Mar 1891
Parent: George Jones
Notes: Walnut Tree Walk School (0304) opened in 1875. Remodelled in 1907
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/WAL/AD/001

Potty

Potty Report 13 Dec 2012 13:31

Have found William's school record - it look like a beginning of term list - gives William's birth as Oct 1883. It doesn't look like a boarding school or institution, so would presume William was living with his parents.

Possibly the same William, address 86 Union Street.

Name: William Jones
Age: 3
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1883
School: Walnut Tree Walk School
Address: KENNINGTON ROAD
Borough: Lambeth
Admission Date: 25 Apr 1887
Parent: Eliza
Notes: Walnut Tree Walk School (0304) opened in 1875. Remodelled in 1907
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/WAL/AD/011

Annabel

Annabel Report 13 Dec 2012 13:48

Thank you for your reply s, that where I got the information from on Ancestry, trying to trace the birth of a William John Jones born 1883 in the 1911 census he is down as William Thomas born St Lukes living in Essex but my friend said her grandfather was always known as William John.

What we know about him
Married in 1903 to Elizabeth Maud French gave fathers name as George Jones a porter.
he had been in the Army his ears were damages, have found Army records for a William Jones which could be him but only 2 pages so not a lot of information.also found 1901 census of a William Jones in the the Army.

getting late here so off to bed thank you Annabel

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Dec 2012 13:58

Different family obviously in 1881, but probably same address - note occupation too:

1881 England Census about Daniel Driscoll
Name: Daniel Driscoll
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A. Driscoll
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Southwark St George Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Temple Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Mket Porter

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: London Road

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 13 Dec 2012 14:05

What are the names of the witnesses on the marriage cert?
Jan

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Dec 2012 14:50

1911 (reference)
JONES, William Thomas Husband Married8 years M 28 1883 Carman Army Pensioner St Lukes Dist. (Slightly Deaf)
JONES, Elizabeth Maud Wife Married 8 years F 28 1883 French Polisher Pentonville
JONES, George Ernest Samuel Son M 6 1905 Shoreditch South
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1331
Reference: RG14PN1331 RG78PN46 RD16 SD1 ED10 SN176
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub District: Shoreditch South
Enumeration District: 10
Parish: Shoreditch
Address: 13 Myrtle Street Hoxton N
County: London
(5 children born, 2 living, 3 died)


Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
FRENCH Elizabeth Maud Shoreditch 1c 154
JONES William John Shoreditch 1c 154

Chris :)

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Dec 2012 15:16

The man shown on 1911 census is unlikely to be the one whose school info is posted...........he would have been born no later than 31st March 1883...........not in October of that year

What prompted you to pick on that particular school admission record?

Moonbeam

Moonbeam Report 13 Dec 2012 16:50

Annabel

I've looked at the 1891 Census for 5 Temple Street, St George the Martyr in Lambeth District and there were no Wilson's living there.

To see the page go to the 1891 Census (Ancestry) and at the bottom where it says RG12 type in 349 for Piece and any number between 9-14 for Folio. Click on Search and it should take you to a list of names. Click on any of the Images. Then go to Image 13. This should be 5 Temple Street.

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Dec 2012 16:53

Moonbeam

The surname being researched is Jones

Moonbeam

Moonbeam Report 13 Dec 2012 20:18

Thanks Reggie. A senior moment :-S

Sorry Annabel. I didn't see any Jones either.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Dec 2012 21:34

Name: George Ernest Samuel Jones
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 2 Apr 1905 (Born 19 March 1905)
Father's Name: William John Jones (Carman)
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Maud Jones
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Chris :)

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Dec 2012 22:45

I know all about those, Moonbeam.......lol!

For what it's worth, my opinion is that the school record does not relate to the person being researched. The birth is too late

Reggie

Reggie Report 13 Dec 2012 22:48

This should be his birth......IF his birth info in 1911 is accurate

Births Sep 1882 (>99%)
Jones William John Holborn 1b 689

St Luke district was included in Holborn after 1869

All such info can be found on freebmd