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A James Clusker born 1855/1857 in Ireland

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OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 4 Jan 2013 07:17

Morning Joy Kentish Maid,

Thanks for the link, I got round to having a look and there were four records for a James Clusker b1866 but none of them provided any useful information and all showed D.O.B. as ???.

I think he may have gone to the USA in the early 1900's and probably died there :-(

1920 United States Federal Census

James Clusker, City Sangamon, Illinois, abt 1865

Regards,

James

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 3 Jan 2013 21:31

James, I read " I am trying to find information on the birth of a James Clusker" at the beginning of your thread, which was why I suggested the possible army record for him and thus the reason why I sent you a link for free credits to find my past to view it.


OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 3 Jan 2013 17:46

Eringobragh1916,

Yes my tree has grown to over 1,000 individuals, thanks mainly the help given by individuals like you. Anne's latest contribution with Felix and Peter Clusker has enabled me to research them and that has resulted in me being able to add about another 20 individuals to my tree.

if there is one thing this site can be proud of it is the valuable assistance provided by the volunteers who track these boards and freely give their time to helping others.

The two areas I am still hitting brick walls with are the the parents and siblings of George Wotherspoon, and my mothers uncle Thomas Wotherspoon who moved to the Huddersfield or Sheffield area.

To that end I have subscribed to the Lanarkshire Family History Society and to a similar society that covers Huddersfield and Sheffield. I am not counting my chickens before they hatch but who knows they may turn up some new leads :-)

James

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Jan 2013 16:58

James thank you..!!

Your tree must be getting a grand size...and you there thinking you wouldn't manage to discover very much...The journey's we travel.

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 3 Jan 2013 15:56

Hi Eringobragh1916, apologies I missed tour post, saw it and meant to reply - A Happy & Prosperous New Year to you :-)

Ere's to the year that's awa!
We'll drink it in strong and in sma'!
And here's to ilk bonnie young lassie we lo'ed
While swift flew the year that's awa;
And here's to ilk bonnie young lassie we lo'ed
While swift flew the year that's awa.

Here's to the sodger who bled,
And the sailor who bravely did fa';
Their fame is alive, though their spirits are fled
On the wings o the year that's awa;
Their fame is alive, though their spirits are fled
On the wings o the year that's awa.

Here's to the friends we can trust
When the storms of adversity blaw;
May they live in our song and be nearest our heart,
Nor depart like the year that's awa;
May they live in our song and be nearest our heart,
Nor depart like the year that's awa.

Best Wishes,

James

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 3 Jan 2013 14:45

Hello Anne,

I keep a copy of my tree on Ancestry as well, normally I would export a gedcom from here on a regular basis and import it to Ancestry as a back up tree, deleting the one that was on there first, unfortunately due to the Gedcom problems on here I have not been able to do that for the past 8 days :-(

I see you are researching the Fyfe's in Lanarkshire, i also have Fyfe's in my tree but mine are from Kilbirnie in North Ayrshire.

Best Regards,

James

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 3 Jan 2013 14:03

Hi James,
I use an offline tree too. ( downloaded free from family search many moons ago)

On Anc, my tree has 2231 document attached but it is unsearcheable and completely private.
(If the tree was searcheable, the docs would also show to exists).
I update this continually, and every 3 months, I export a gedcom and upload it to ANC as a secondary tree, deleting it's pre decessor.
No docs/photos upload with a gedcom which prevents regular, unconnected requests for copies This tree is still private but names can be found on an ANC search allowing others to contact me.

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 3 Jan 2013 11:18

Joy Kentish Maid,

The army record for James are on my "To Do List"

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 3 Jan 2013 11:10

I meant the possible army record for James :)

I am sorry about the lost details. For safety, I only use an offline family tree.



OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 3 Jan 2013 10:32

Morning Joy Kentish Maid,

I welcome all help and suggestions I get from the members on here <3

My initial problem was that I had only one Bernard on my tree and he was born in 1865 and I married him off to Josephine McDermott.

After searching through various Irish sites I discovered that the Bernard born in 1865 died in 1869 aged three. It transpired that the parents had another son in 1870 and named him Bernard and it was that Bernard who married Josephine McDermott in 1901.

His army papers give his year and place of birth, parents, and date and place of marriage, this meant I had to make some adjustments to my tree.

However that exercise was a a total waste of time as all the dates and notes that I made on individuals details have disappeared overnight :-(

Best Regards,

James

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 3 Jan 2013 08:57

Was there no place and date of birth given in army records, James?

(Just trying to be helpful.)

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 3 Jan 2013 08:28

Hi Anne,

Once again you are spot on, I have found the Birth Certificate for Duncan on SP, he was born in Dunipace in Stirlingshire on 14/07/1889, he is shown as illegitimate and mother is shown as Maggie O'Donnelly a domestic servant, no fathers name given.

I have added him to my tree and attached this to his details.

Thanks Again,

James

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 2 Jan 2013 16:13

Hi Anne,

Yes looking at that 1891 Scotland Census about Duncan Donnell it would appear to fit. Peter's marriage certificate says she was a spinster and that her father was a James D Donnelly or James O'Donnelly and her mother was I think a Catherine or Katherine but my eyesight is not very good so not sure, I have attached it to them on my tree.

So either she was married twice or young Duncan was born out of wedlock, which would not surprise me when I look at some pf the characters I have discovered on my side of the family :-(

Thank for that information,

James

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 2 Jan 2013 16:06

Okay. From experience, usually a place and date of birth are given.

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 2 Jan 2013 15:51

Hi Joy Kentish Maid,

I had a quick look, I have about 20 army records for him but as most refer to his drunken escapades and punch ups with his senior officers I decided only to attach two on his profile.

Thanks & Best Wishes,

James

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 2 Jan 2013 15:39

Hi James,
On the 1901 census, Felix is entered as Brother in law to Margaret who was head of household.
Felix's place of birth is Ireland and Margaret's is Denny.... which is why I am sure she is the woman who married Peter Clusker.
The ages of the kids are the reason I think she may have been married before, or had children out of wedlock.
You would need to look at the Clusker/O'Donnelly marriage in Denny to confirm.


EDIT: pretty sure james!
1891 Scotland Census
about Duncan Donnell
Name: Duncan Donnell
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relationship: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunipace, Stirlingshire
Registration number: 478
Registration district: Dunipace
Civil parish: Dunipace
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Nob Row
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 12
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1891_147
Household Members: Name Age
Katharine C Donnell 57 b Ireland
Margaret Donnell 28 *** born Denny
Agnes Donnell 19
Elizabeth Donnell 18
Annie Donnell 16
Helen Donnell 13
Duncan Donnell 1 GRANDSON b Dunipace
Thomas Neil 49



Anne

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 2 Jan 2013 15:22

James, did you look at the army records to which I gave you a link?

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 2 Jan 2013 15:11

Hi Anne,

Ay long last the tree is working again I have added much of the information you provided and have have also updated my Bernard Clusker entries as it appears there were two children named Bernard. One died in infancy and for the other I found the details his marriage from the army records Moody Blue sent me a while back. I think he and his wife went to the USA after he came out the army in the early 1900's.

I am still a bit puzzled though about who Felix was living with in 1901. From what you provided I am assuming that he was visiting/lodging with the family you gave in the 1901 Census:-

1901 Scotland Census
about Felix Clusker:-

Margret Clusker 33
Duncan Clusker 11
Agnes Clusker 6
James Clusker 2
Felix Clusker 47

At first I thought that the Margret Clusker was the Maggie O'Donnelly b1867 who was married to Peter Clusker in Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland in 1896, but then I looked at the children's ages and they don't tie in with that marriage, so I will now have to try and find out who that Margaret was :-(

Best Wishes,

James

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 31 Dec 2012 22:00

Evening James...Knew you would eventually end up over the water..!!


May the best ye hae ivver seen be the warst ye'll ivver see.
May the moose ne'er lea' yer girnal wi a tear-drap in its ee.
May ye aye keep hail an hertie till ye'r auld eneuch tae dee.
May ye aye juist be sae happie as A wuss ye aye tae be.

Happy Hogmanay

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 31 Dec 2012 21:23

There's the difficulty with trying to find a birth date and place of birth when someone was born before civil registration of 1864 in Ireland.

You could try http://www.findmypast.co.uk/army-service-records-search.action?redef=M&submit=1 - in case he has army records there.