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Hi,

I am trying to track down a birth record or marriage record for my grandfather which has been totally unsuccessful. I have found the death record for him but I am not finding anything else. I did find my Mothers birth record and she was born in Tullamore, Ireland on 7th May 1953.

I know my grandfather Michael Gloster, was born in Southern Ireland, I have been told Dingle, Kerry, Ireland, but I cant find anything in records I have looked at.
He was born on 7th May 1912, and died in Aug 2003 in Calderdale, West Yorkshire, England. He married a Kathleen Kenny which I can not find a marriage for either.
I am just totally stuck with this any advice or help I would be very much grateful for.

Many thanks,
Kerry.

The marriage is on Ancestry:
According to a Google Search, BIRR is in County Offaly.

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Michael Gloster
Name: Michael Gloster
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1943
Registration district: Birr ***
Volume: 3
Page: 217 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101579***

SAME FILM No
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Catherine Kenny
Name: Catherine Kenny
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1943
Registration district: Birr ***
Volume: 3
Page: 217 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101579 ***

Anne

Thank you Anne,
I think this possible could be the marriage record and I had my Nanny's name different so I was drawing blank possible even passed this one.
Thank you ever so much.

Many thanks
Kerry.

Kerry,
Does Michael's death certificate name his parents?
If so you may be able to track them down on a 1911 census in Ireland.


Anne

I dont think that English Death certs name parents on them....I have not seen one anyway.
But I am open to be proved wrong.. :-D

Do you have any brothers or sisters names for Michael Gloster please?

There is a birth of a Michael Joseph Gloster in Sothern Ireland ,but it is in 1908.

My grandad always said he was born 25th Sept 1901 ,turned out he was born 1902


Name: Michael Joseph Gloster
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1908
Registration district: Rathkeale
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 434
FHL Film Number: 101072

1911 Ireland for that one

Residents of a house 3 in Chapel Lane (Rathkeale Urban, Limerick)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Gloster Michael 44 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
Gloster Annie 38 Female Wife Roman Catholic
Gloster James 16 Male Son Roman Catholic
Gloster Madge 15 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Gloster Daniel 13 Male Son Roman Catholic
Gloster Annie 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Gloster Nora 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Gloster Kathleen 6 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Gloster Mary Bridget 5 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Gloster Michael 3 Male Son Roman Catholic

You appear to be on the right path...
Cath/Kath are interchangeable....and the fact your mother was born in Tullamore Co Offaly....

For ref.
Birr is in the RC Dioces Killaloe
Tullamore RC Diocese of Meath

There were 1901/1911 Gloster families in the Dingle and the Co Limerick...the surname however was more prelevant in the Dingle and some showing on the Census for the Co Limerick had been b in the Dingle/(Co Kerry)

I don't know the names of his parents. I think he had a brother called Paddy- Patrick and a sister called Mary but I cant be positive on this that is why I was looking for a birth record so I could possible find a census record that might lead me from there with possible names of his parents.

I have come across this record of Michael Joseph Gloster in Sothern Ireland ,but it is in 1908, and I have thought the same thing is it possible that my Grandfathers date of birth is wrong. Could this happen even though on his death record his date of birth 7,5,1912? Could his date of birth still be different?
I am pretty knew to this and this is the first glitch I have come across
On my Fathers side of the family I have been pretty lucky.

Many thanks,
Kerry.

Kerry in the absence of a Birth Cert. then dont take dob as Gospel !!
The dob given on a Death/any other Cert is always dependant of those giving the info.
I would suggest you get the MC which would give the name of Michael's father and work from there.

Did your mother have any bros./sisters ?
Most Irish families followed the traditional naming Pattern of their children and sometimes you may find a clue there ..it is not foolproof because some children may have died....

Hi Eringobragh1916,

Thank you very much for the information. I think if I can get a fathers or mothers name on a MC I think it is the way forward and only way I can be sure that am on the right track.
I have thought that maybe the names might follow pattern but as my mother only had one older sister.
Thank you for the advice I will work on trying to get hold of a MC now.

Kerry.

The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Most County Kerry parish registers are free online at:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

Hi Kerry,

Sent you a private email.

GinaS