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While searching Scotlands People for details of a Michael Clusker born 1894 the son of Patrick Clusker and Carragher I found his Death Certificate, he died in Bangour Hospital in 1950 and at the time of his death he resided at Cleghorn Drive
in Broxburn.

His Death Certificate shows he was married to an Anne O'Donnell, however I cannot find any details of this marriage.

He may have emigrated to Canada or the USA, however he was present at Cowdenbeath in Scotland in 1917 as he was a witness at the marriage of his cousin Stephen Clusker on 01/06/1917.

I would welcome any help in finding out as much as I can about Michael Clusker and Anne O'Donnell and also their children.

Thanks,

James

Who registered his death?

Why do you think he may have emigrated?

Any evidence to support the theory?

No record of emigration on FMP or Ancestry

Have you looked for/found him in 1911?

Hi Reggie - Happy New Year,

1) In the early 1900's many of the family were back and forward like a yo-yo to the USA

2) The informant was the son, can't quite make it out, Manus, Marcus Clusker

3) He is on the 1901 Scotland Census but no trace on 1911

Regards,

James

James,
The marriage of Michael and Annie is on SP
Married in West Lothian.. 1925

Anne

Thanks Anne,

Strange, I searched on all areas between 1915 and 1935,I must have done something wrong so I will go and have another look :-S

Thanks Again,

James

Hi Anne,

Found it, it is showing his name as Michael Joseph Clusker, and what I was doing wrong was searching on exact christian name Michael as that was the only christian name on both his Birth Certificate and Death Certificate, so don't know where the Joseph came from :-S

Thanks,

James

Hi James. My name is Stella Clusker. I found this by chance but Michael Clusker & Anne O'Donnell were my Grandparents :-)

Stella...Try sending James a PM (Personal Message) just click on his board name....
Havent seen him on this board for a while but he does still post on General Chat.

Thanks, I have done that too. This is all new to me! Lol. Someone asked me at work this morning what my name meant so I googled it and found this! Thanks again. :-)

At the beginning of January this year with much appreciated assistance from GlasgowLass (Anne), I managed to obtain the marriage certificate for Anne O'Donnell and Michael Joseph Clusker.

My eyesight leaves much to be desired due to cataracts, but my reading of their marriage certificate is, that they married in Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland, in 1925 and Anne's age is given as 26, her parents look like they are Manus O'Donnell and Ellen McAfferty.

My problem is that here I am 4 months on and I have been unable to find her birth certificate and if she had any siblings.

However, I have obtained a copy of a 1911 Scotland Census with a Manus and Ellen O'Donnell and their family on it, but I am no expert and at my age I get easily confused and end up going down the wrong path :-S

Can anyone help me with this - thank you

??


1901 Scotland Census about Annie Odonnell
Name: Annie Odonnell
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Patrick Odonnell
Mother's Name: Ellen Odonnell
Gender: Female
Where born: Broxburn, Linlithgow
Registration number: 672
Registration district: Uphall
Civil parish: Uphall
Town: Broxburn
County: West Lothian
Address: Church St
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 212
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1901_358
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Odonnell 30
Ellen Odonnell 28
Annie Odonnell 3
Mary Odonnell 6 Mo

Patrick's occupation is a Shale Miner ... what is Manus' occupation on Anne's marriage certificate ?

Patrick and Ellen both born in Ireland

Hello Helen, thanks for that, but don't think it fits.

Manus's occupation is given as a Shale Miner, and I have found quite a few references to an Anne or Annie O'Donnell's on SP between 1895/1905.

The only one that looks like it fits, is the one on the 1911 census below, to add to that I have just downloaded the birth certificate for a James O'Donnell born 1903 in Uphall West Lothian and he has the same parents as are shown on Anne's marriage certificate.

Scotland Census 1911

Manns O'Donnell 1871 M Ireland Head
Ellen O'Donnell 1863 F Ireland Wife
Patrick O'Donnell 1894 M Ireland Son
Hendry O'Donnell 1897 M Ireland Son
Peter O'Donnell 1898 M Ireland Son
Bridget O'Donnell 1898 F Ireland Daughter
Anne O'Donnell 1900 F Uphall Daughter
Katie O'Donnell 1902 F Uphall Daughter
James O'Donnell 1903 M West Calder Son (Birth Certificate says Uphall)

Regards,

Jim

James,
Just for your records, Manus and Ellen married in Donegal.


Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Manus O'Donnell
Name: Manus O'Donnell
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1893
Registration district: Glenties
Volume: 2
Page Number: 89
FHL Film Number: 101257
Records on Page:
Name
Ellen M'Clafferty
Manus O'Donnell

Manus O'Donnell married Ellen McClafferty 1893 Donegal
Manus father's a Patrick
Ellen father's a Henry
children born Donegal, all children mothers maiden spelt McClafferty except Henry its Mcafferty
Patrick 1893
Henry joseph 1896
Bridget 1898
Peter 1898
Annie 1899
rootsireland.ie

This is the family but Annie not with them
1901 Scotland Census
about Peter Odonnell Name: Peter Odonnell
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Manus Odonnell
Mother's Name: Ellen Odonnell
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 672
Registration district: Uphall
Civil parish: Uphall
County: West Lothian
Address: Goschen Place No 30
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 66
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1901_358
Household Members: Name Age
Manus Odonnell 35
Ellen Odonnell 37
Patrick Odonnell 7
Henry Joseph Odonnell 4
Peter Odonnell 3
Mary Bridget Odonnell 3

Anne (GlasgowLass) and Maura - thank you both so much for that, at last I can move forward on that branch of my tree.

My best wishes to you both.

Jim

I have now updated my tree to include the O'Donnell family, but I am no further forward in finding the birth details for Anne/Annie O'Donnell who married Michael Joseph Clusker.

I am not sure what, if anything, I am doing wrong in trying to find her birth details, she is shown as the daughter of Manns/Manus O'Donnell in this census and as having been born in Uphall.

1911 ODONNELL MANNS M 40 UPHALL/WEST LOTHIAN 672/00 001/00 037

And on this, her Marriage Certificate, my reading is that her parents were Manus O'Donnell and Ellen McClafferty(?)

1925 CLUSKER MICHAEL JOSEPH O'DONNELL ANNIE UPHALL/WEST LOTHIAN 672/00 0066

Over the past two weeks I have purchased around 120 credits and I have used the bulk of these, without success, in trying to find the birth certificate for Anne/Annie O'Donnell.

Any idea as to what I may be doing wrong, or what else I can do, as a pensioner, I cannot afford to continue wasting SP credits like this.

When I look at her family, her parents were born in Ireland, as were 3 of her brothers and 1 of her sisters, her other 3 siblings I have confirmed were all born in the Uphall area of West Lothian, and looking at the date of the last sibling born in Ireland and then the dates of the siblings born in Scotland, I am wondering if maybe she was in fact born in Ireland and not Scotland.

Manns O'Donnell 1866 M Ireland
Ellen O'Donnell 1864 F Ireland
Patrick O'Donnell 1894 M Ireland
Henry Joseph O'Donnell 1897 M Ireland
Peter O'Donnell 1898 M Ireland
Mary Bridget O'Donnell 1898 F Ireland
Anne O'Donnell 1900 F Uphall Scotland ??? :-S
Katie O'Donnell 1901 F Uphall Scotland
Marjory O'Donnell 1901 F Uphall Scotland
James O'Donnell 1903 M Uphall Scotland

Any thoughts and input on this is welcomed,

Regards,

James

James...Check back on MarieCeleste's post 11 May 15.56 she has all children including Ann being born in Ire.


EDIT......MAURA's posting not MCs.

Thanks Eringobragh1916 I only picked up the marriage info then moved on to Maura's next post, my eyesight is definitely getting worse, anyway I have had a look on Roots Ireland and found this :-)

Civil Birth Record
Name: Annie O Donnell Date of Birth: 17-Jul-1899
Date of Baptism: 1-Jan-0
Address: Stracashel Parish/District: GLENTIES
Gender: Female County Co. Donegal
Denomination: Civil Record
Father: Manus O Donnell Mother: Ellen McClafferty
Occupation: Farmer
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:

Thanks Again,

Jim