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guys... i have Jacob Caldwell born1852 married Isabella Brown born 1856 in 1874 they had two childen james in 1873 and eliza Ann in 1880. I cant find them after the 1881 census.... would anyone be able to assist..
thanks... :-)

there is a Isabella Caldwell with children James and Eliza Ann in Gateshead 1881 but the head of the house is George Caldwell.
the children have the right birth years, so does Isabella !.

Where are they 1881 Kim?
Jan

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name: George Caldwell
age: 28
gender: Male
birth year: 1853
birthplace: Gateshead, Durham, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Labourer (Unemployed)
address: 374 Askew Road
census place: Gateshead, Durham, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342213
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 5032 / 37
page number: 3
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head George Caldwell M 28 Gateshead, Durham, England
wife Isabella Caldwell F 25 Gateshead, Durham, England
son James Caldwell M 8 Gateshead, Durham, England
daughter Eliza Ann Caldwell F 1 Gateshead, Durham, England

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
BROWN Isabella Gateshead 10a 1119
Bryan Andrew Gateshead 10a 1119
Caldwell George Gateshead 10a 1119
HARDING Frances Gateshead 10a 1119

Well done SAFC!

was just going to say, there is a Jacob Caldwell death Gateshead in 1878.
wondered if the second child was the daughter of George and not Jacob, but that marriage puts that right out the window lol

Kim, have you looked for a death for George (I assume it is George not Jacob?).
Jan

i am sitting here slapping myself....his name is george.... hers is isabella kids are james and eliza... i have so many jacob caldwell's in my tree i typed the wrong name... sorry guys

Looks like there is a brother Jacob? I think he married a Margaret though.

1861 England Census
Name: George Caldwell
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Gateshead
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead

Elizabeth Hull 56
Isabella Lamb 31
Robert Lamb 28
William Graham 18
Jacob Caldwell 14
Catherine Caldwell 11
George Caldwell 8

cant find george's death either...

thats the family brummijan....

So - just to confirm - your original query should have read George not Jacob?
Jan

yea... it shoud by George.....

I did wonder about this one, having looked for a marriage for Isabella in the event George had died, but seems a bit unlikely in that there is no sign of James or Eliza:

???Deaths Jun 1882 (>99%)
Coldwell George 29 Gateshead 10a 470


Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
CALDWELL Isabella Newcastle T. 10b 70
CUMMINGS Joseph Newcastle T 10b 70
DOBINSON George Newcastle T. 10b 70
LONINES Mary Newcastle T. 10b 70
LOUINES Mary Newcastle T. 10b 70


1891 England Census
Name: Isabella Cummings
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Cummings
Gender: Female
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Durham

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe

Joseph Cummings 47
Isabella Cummings 36
John George Cummings 7
Thomas Cummings 5
Jane Isabella Cummings 3
John Jobling 63

Given that James was probably born before his parents marriage, then I would go for this as his death. Several James Brown's born Gateshead RD 1872/3, but no James Caldwell

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: CALDWELL, James Brown
Registration district: Gateshead
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 13
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 425

it is weird... the whole family disappears... cant even find them leaving the country.. :-(

I would consider the above marriage for Isabella you know. I wonder if this might be her daughter? Pretty tragic if so:

Deaths Sep 1882 (>99%)
CALDWELL Elizabeth Ann 2 Gateshead 10a 482

I think Stuart is right about death of James, well done him!

Jan

well done stuart.... and brummiejan... what would i do without you guys helping me when i hit that brick wall... thanks again ...

Well, it does look promising doesn't it, though of course you need the marriage cert to be sure it is her. The above Isabella looks to have been widowed by 1901.
Happy to help, an interesting challenge this one!
Jan