Genealogy Chat

brilliant team brilliant.....

Snap SAFC! See above.
Jan

groom's name: Joseph Cummings
groom's birth date: 1848
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 35
bride's name: Isabella Caldwell
bride's birth date: 1855
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 28
marriage date: 1883
marriage place: All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
groom's father's name: James Cummings
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Brown
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M15606-6
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1068971
reference number: 2:1D49TRK
Citing this Record

Newcastle Marriages,

1883.

>>>Isabella Caldwell.
Joseph Cummings.

Joseph Cummings
>>>Isabella -Brown.

Wedding Venue-----All Saints.

Looks as though John George might have made it though!

1911 census transcription details for: Waveney
Military details: Leading Seaman 416

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN13899 RD297 SD2 ED12 SN9999
Reg. District: Falmouth
Sub District: Falmouth
Parish: Sarah Ann Widdings Budock Urban Falmouth Falmouth Borough
Enum. District: 12
Address:
County: Cornwall
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CUMMINGS, John George Single ? 28 1883 Gateshead on Tyne Durham

hmmmm... thanks guys.. had just written it all down and then updated this screen.. i am questioning in my mind the word 'servant' probably living together...

??Daughter Jane Isabella's death

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: CUMMINGS, Jane Isabella
Registration district: South Shields
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1894
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 6
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 391

I think it is her marrying Joseph Cummings - from Familysearch:

groom's name: Joseph Cummings
groom's birth date: 1848

groom's age: 35
bride's name: Isabella Caldwell
bride's birth date: 1855

bride's age: 28
marriage date: 1883
marriage place: All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
groom's father's name: James Cummings
bride's father's name: John Brown

bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M15606-6
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1068971
reference number: 2:1D49TRK

And possibly a widow again by 1911?????

1911 census transcription details for: 21 Sycamore St Throckley Newburn

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN30871 RG78PN1765 RD560 SD3 ED1 SN155
Reg. District: Castle Ward
Sub District: Newburn
Parish: Throckley
Enum. District: 1
Address: 21 Sycamore St Throckley Newburn
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BIRKETT, William Head Widower M 66 1845 Coal Miner Hewer Reswick C Cumberland
CUMMINGS, Thomas G Boarder Single M 26 1885 Coal Miner Hewer Gateshead Durham
CUMMINGS, Isabelle Servant Widow F 55 1856 Housekeeper Domestic Gateshead Durham

I believe this is the Isabella Cummings from 1891 - it clearly says birthplace Gateshead on image (have sent correction):


1901 England Census
Name: Isabella Cummings
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Goterbead, Durham, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: North Bishopwearmouth

Isabella Cummings 45
Thomas G Cummings 15

so husband died in june 1882 daughter in sept 1882....

hmmmmm.. rereading this if he died in 1882... she has remarried... god help me thats another name to add to my confusion....

very interesting... and i still cant find either george or isabella in the 1901 census or the 1911 census.... these caldwells are driving me nuts....

any further hints or tips

Death,?

1882,

COLDWELL.....George.
age >29,
Gateshead.

and as you say... tragic....

Brummiejan - well found hopefully for Eliza. I think you must be right, although it does look as though the only birth was registered as Eliza Ann in 1880

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: CALDWELL, Eliza Ann
Registration district: Gateshead
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1880
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 735

Well, it does look promising doesn't it, though of course you need the marriage cert to be sure it is her. The above Isabella looks to have been widowed by 1901.
Happy to help, an interesting challenge this one!
Jan

well done stuart.... and brummiejan... what would i do without you guys helping me when i hit that brick wall... thanks again ...

I would consider the above marriage for Isabella you know. I wonder if this might be her daughter? Pretty tragic if so:

Deaths Sep 1882 (>99%)
CALDWELL Elizabeth Ann 2 Gateshead 10a 482

I think Stuart is right about death of James, well done him!

Jan

it is weird... the whole family disappears... cant even find them leaving the country.. :-(