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please help find register of death scotland 1938

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Fiona Report 26 Jan 2013 17:41



Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Jan 2013 17:08

Fiona...They may well be in the RC ones and I dont think they are all on line with SP (or anywhere else)....


Fiona Report 26 Jan 2013 16:44

Im finding it really hard to find a single marriage-I accept that some people may not have married.
My greatgrandmother Mary Maguire nee mcgovern married peter maguire, william logan he is the informant on the death cert and listed as brother in law to mary wallace nee maguire (my grandmother) so must have married a maguire. Cannot find any including mary wallace to george wallace- an ideas please?Mary maguire nee mcgovern had her daughter 1897 so presumably married around then?


Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Jan 2013 17:10

Fiona...Have sent a PM explaining (tongue in cheek) how to send the Death Cert...


Fiona Report 25 Jan 2013 15:22

Eringobragh-thanks- do i need to "close" those other threads? How do i extend this to the mcguire family-also tried to attach the death cert to you but couldnt do it...the name looks like mcgovern but not 100% clear.


Fiona Report 25 Jan 2013 15:19

Thankyou- rootgatherer - i have 1911 census that corresponds to that 1911 but now think it is not her.My grandmothers death cert has her father peter maguire (then living) farmer and mother mary maguire nee mcgovern. mary wallace aged41yrs widow of deceased george wallace.the brother in law wlliam logan was registering mother does not remember a grandfather.she had older siblings mary,george and matilda(tilly) and tom. Iwas in touch with her niece who referred to her as mcguire born 1900 ireland we are not now in touch but i cannot find this birth either. her deth cert has her age 41 , still dont have a date of birth for her.have tried finding georges death but am rapidly going through the credits so need to be more efficient.


Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Jan 2013 14:00

rootgatherer..Moody Blue posted the 1901Census (same as yours ) on Fiona's other thread..she thinks it may possibly be her family...but we are now following on this I need to keep


rootgatherer Report 25 Jan 2013 13:29

Sorry Erin, I was editing my post as you posted. I do think that we need all the details from the death certificate and any possible census records.


Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Jan 2013 13:23

Fiona..Can you post the 1901/1911 Census details (For ref.) may help determine if you are in fact following the correct family line...


rootgatherer Report 25 Jan 2013 13:03

If your grandparents married the date and place of their marriage will be on your mother's birth certificate. So the best thing to do is order the certificate. A child can be registered in the father's name if the father is present at registration even if the parents are unmarried. If George was deceased when your mother was born, the birth certificate of an older sibling may be needed to get the date and place of the marriage.

What names were given for the parents on the death certificate please? Who was the informant?


Copied over from thread on Finding Ancestors to keep it all together.

I am trying to find correct parents (and siblings etc) of my grandmother Mary Maguire born 1897 ?lanarkshire ?ireland. A death cert which seems to be most accurate has peter maguire as father (born ireland) which lead me to a census 1911 which has her mother mary maguire deceased but i cant read her mothers maiden name (on the death cert) Actually getting in a bit of a muddle and have ended up with several census which i now think incorrect. (i started off searching mcguire until i got hte death certificate

Her death certificate would not give her father's place of birth. What was his occupation on the death certificate please?

Is this the 1901 census that you think is her family please?

Name: Peter Maguire
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ann Maguire
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 646/2
Registration district: Govan
Civil parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 16 Logie St
Occupation: Laboruer In Shipyard
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 133
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_328
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Maguire 30
Ann Maguire 29
Mary Ann Maguire 4
Ellen Maguire 3
Kate Maguire 1
Patrick Healy 20


Fiona Report 25 Jan 2013 12:52



GlasgowLass Report 25 Jan 2013 12:39

There is an image of your mother's BC, but no births from 1913 to date are available to view online
The only way to obtain a copy of your mother's birth cert is to order it from SP
It costs £12 and is sent out by post.
The other way to see it, is to visit the SP centres in Edinburgh, Glasgow or Kilmarnock.
A full day visit with unlimited access costs £15 but you can view all records.
The same embargo's will apply to printing/saving the documents ( cannot print/save a birth record after 1912)
Unfortunately, this birth record will not give any indication of how old her parents were in 1930, but if George is listed as the father, his occupation should be on it.




Fiona Report 25 Jan 2013 12:20

sorry abut multiple threads(?) i thought they were all different topics i take it one family is on topic? Do I just stop writing on the other boards about this family im not able to cut and paste etc. Is this the best board for these queries?Ive looked at loads on scots people but the info doesnt all match and as previously said i think my search info is making it difficult.


Fiona Report 25 Jan 2013 12:13


Thankyou-I do not have a marriage cert .
I do have a death cert which seems mostly accurate ie date and place and her age, it is in her married name and has george wallace as husband. My mu sarah wallace was born on greenock 3/9/30 there is no image for her cert but she knows that george is down as her father but in fact he had died some years before and she does not know who her father is. My mum says she has seen a record of her birth with georges name on it. I think i have the family on the 1901 census and the 1911 census but the names dont fit with the death cert.


GlasgowLass Report 25 Jan 2013 11:41

Do you have your grandmothers marriage cert to ..Wallace.
The marriage and the correct death cert should show the SAME parents for her.

Strike that... there is no Wallace/McGuire marriage on SP that I could find

If your grandmother was unmarried, her death cert should be registered with her maiden name , unless she went on to marry someone else before she died.
We require more info.
When and where was your mother born and exactly what info does it contain?

If your mother was born inside of marriage, her birth certificate should have her parents marriage place and date on it.


Reggie Report 25 Jan 2013 09:46

You don't give any indication of when and where your mother was born.

And you can't see birth certs on what info are you looking at?

Also, Ancestry do not, in any case, carry Scottish BMD's

And please stick to one post per topic - as per site guidelines


Reggie Report 25 Jan 2013 09:41


greyghost Report 25 Jan 2013 00:34

Linked thread on Find Ancestors board - can't copy and paste link as seem to have hit the wrong button and deleted the thread details - now I can't get it back!!

Title - Please help find parents of mary macguire


Fiona Report 24 Jan 2013 20:05

hi karen
Thanks for your help- am playing around but have managed to waste credits. Are the details on the death cert 100% correct- it lead me to 1911 census which gives her a middle name and born in scotland whereas i thought she was born in ireland,, Also is there any way to decipher the writing - im not able to read her mothers maiden name


Fiona Report 24 Jan 2013 18:56

Thanks found it- wish id found it earlier have viewed alot of incorrect census !