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William H Clarke born c1871 help required please

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linda25g

linda25g Report 9 Feb 2013 15:12

Hi
William Henry Clarke was my great grandfather
I have some info on him
Banns read in St Marys Lancaster nov and dec 1898 for marriage to Sarah Ann Clegg ( no record of marriage though)

John William Clarke Clegg baptised in St Marys born 1898 son of above

Sarah Clarke living bridge lane Lancaster in 1901 census with daughter Elizabeth

William Clarke living with Sarah and 3 other children (the above John lived with Sarah's sister and Elizabeth had died) in Bridge Lane Lancaster in 1911 census age 40 yrs with birthplace given as Barnsley Yorkshire

Although on BMD I can find a William Henry Clarke born in Barnsley 1871, I can't find him in any other census apart from the 1911 one and no other records of him, not even a birth or baptism on any other site

Linda

linda25g

linda25g Report 9 Feb 2013 15:17

also in the 1911 census Sarah is stated as having 7 children, 4 still living
so far I have
John Clarke Clegg born 1898
Elizabeth Clarke born 1900 died 1902
James Clarke born 1902
Charles Clarke born 1904 died 1904
George Clarke born 1907
Margaret Clarke born 1910

so I am missing one more

thanks if anyone can help

Linda

safc

safc Report 9 Feb 2013 15:25

Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
Clarke William Henry Lancaster 8e 1561 xxxx
Clegg Sarah Ann Lancaster 8e 1561 xxxx
Judson Thomas Lancaster 8e 1561
Scarr Amy Young Lancaster 8e 1561


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLEGG Sarah Ann CLARKE William Henry Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/24/151

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Feb 2013 16:29

is this William H in 1881
CLARKE, Henry Head Married M 34 1847 Stone Mason
Birkenhead, Cheshire VIEW
CLARKE, Ellen Wife Married F 28 1853 Linen Weaver
Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW
CLARKE, M J Daughter Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW
CLARKE, William H Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW
CLARKE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW
CLARKE, Margaret Daughter Single F 4 1877
Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW
CLARKE, Ellen Daughter Single F 1 1880
Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW
BURKE, Mary Mother In Law Widow F 58 1823
Ireland VIEW

Piece: 4604

Folio: 59

Page: 37

Registration District: Barnsley

Civil Parish: Barnsley

Municipal Borough:

Address: 43, Copper St, Barnsley

County: Yorkshire (West riding)


can't be him as still with parents in 1901

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 9 Feb 2013 16:54

7th child???

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1913
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CLARKE Jane Lancaster Preston CLEGG LAN/121/86

linda25g

linda25g Report 10 Feb 2013 16:29

sorry not to reply sooner, my notifications don't seem to coming through by email but thank you all

safc, thanks for confirming the marriage

maddie, that could be him, I was working on him being born c1871 as he was 40 on the 1911 census but that could be wrong as the family were in a boarding house and they had the birth year of one of the children wrong by 2yrs, I should have broadened my search but I'm still new to this and none of the family had heard of him being born in Yorkshire,
I'm not sure how I can confirm this but I'll keep trying

lancashireAnn, I had found Jane born 1913 but as she was born after 1911 (when Sarah stated she had already had 7 children) there is still one missing

thanks again Linda

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 10 Feb 2013 18:23

oops - I had missed the fact that he/she would have been born before 1911

I wonder if the missing one (who is presumably one of those who died) was a still birth and therefore never registered as a birth.

There is an Annie Clarke death age 0 registered in Lancaster in 1911 but I can't see a matching birth

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Feb 2013 06:34

Linda


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sylvia

linda25g

linda25g Report 16 Feb 2013 15:01

thanks for the help so far :)

there appear to have been 2 William Henry Clarkes born in Barnsley at about the same time, my William probably born 1871, so the above census info posted by Maddie could be either

and I still can't find any sign of my William on the 1901 census unless he was working away and boarding somewhere and didn't have his correct place of birth on the census

If I apply for William and Sarah's marriage cert will it have their parents names on it?

Linda

Potty

Potty Report 16 Feb 2013 16:00

The marriage cert will have their fathers' names and occupations, but not the mothers.

linda25g

linda25g Report 16 Feb 2013 17:16

thankyou potty
although there is more than one William Henry born around the same time they have different father's names

Linda

linda25g

linda25g Report 23 Feb 2013 20:07

I've just received William and sarah's marriage certificate
William's father is named a William Clarke Brick maker and residence at time of marriage 11 Bridge Lane Lancaster,
but I still can't find any more about him

linda25g

linda25g Report 24 Feb 2013 12:13

William's father's occupation is 'Brick maker' is there a way of searching census to include occupations?

there is a William Clarke born about 1843 in Wombwell (which is near Barnsley) and his father is also William but occ in 1881, 1891 and 2001 census is 'miner'

Linda

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Feb 2013 14:13

???? may be a red herring

1881 in Sutton Lancashire
John Clarke 62 - brickmaker
Hannah Clarke 58
John Saunders 18 - grandson
George Clark 16 - grandson
William Clark 10 - grandson born Barnly Yorkshire
Jane Clark 5 - grandson???

linda25g

linda25g Report 24 Feb 2013 19:56

thank you lancashireAnn
looks a little promising as my William named 3 of his children John, George and Jane

I'll keep looking, I was born a Clarke so really want to carry on up this line if I can :)