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Thanks very much for all the info about the dcli very useful as for the information on his marriage certificate i cant see as he would give a specific job title like brass finisher as his father occupation i think he would have said he was a labourer or something similar we think there might have been some change of name sometime my father was quite sure that some of williams relatives visited him when he lived in tottenham and that they were located in hoxton once again all new information is very welcome but sorry reggie your information is not very helpful

There were Barracks in Gravesend, so that might have been the reason he was there.

Added - look on a map for Albion Rd, Gravesend (where William Marden 1881 was living in 1911) The Barracks were roughly where the Sikh Temple is now.

2nd Add @ 1212

http://www.britisharmedforces.org/scli_%20pages/pages/gravesend.htm
On the 14th October 1908, the 1st Bn. D.C.L.I. consisting of 767 Officers and men, were posted to Milton Barracks from Woolwich and marched from Gravesend station to their new quarters headed by a band of 65 musicians and a twenty strong Silver bugle section, much appreciated by hundreds of local people who lined the roads to see and cheer them. The Regiment band had been trained for six years by Bandmaster H. Morton Reilly, who had also trained and introduced a string orchestra of 45 men. Weather permitting, the D.C.L.I. band gave a public concert on the Parade ground every Wednesday afternoon up until they left the barracks in 1911.

After nearly three years at the barracks, the 1st Bn. D.C.L.I., at the time considered by local people to have been the most popular Regiment ever stationed in Gravesend, were transferred to Tidworth on the 4th September 1911. The D.C.L.I. were replaced on the 27th September 1911 by 841 Officers and men of the 2nd Bn. Royal Dublin Fusiliers.
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DCLI are the initials used by William on the 1911 census entry :-D

He could also have invented a father

I can add that William Marden Jnr (my grandfather) enlisted to the army in London in 1898 and was in the Duke of Cornwalls Light infantry for 26 years and based at Bodmin Barracks. He had South Africa and WW1 medals. We have his discharge paper that gives his year of birth as 1880. We know all about his life after the army but hope to find more from his army records when we get them.

One puzzle is that he was living with his wife and sons in Gravesend Kent during the 1911 census but we have no idea why. Other later members of the family were born at Bodmin, Andover and Plymouth during his army service. The census entry shows he was born in Camberwell "about 1881"

I have done a compete search of all William Mardens (and variations) but failed to find anyone of them born in 1880 or 1881. I assume his father, William Marden snr, would have been born around 1860 but cant find one that had a son William of the right age.

I suppose there is always a possibility he lied about his age when signing up but we await further clues

the wedding took place in bodmin registery office the groom was 24 and was witnessed by the brides father and sister and the grooms address was the barracks at bodmin now awaiting army records

How old was the groom?

What was his address?

Who witnessed the marriage?

william mardens father was william marden senior william seniors occupation when william jr married in 1905 was a brass finisher any takers

Stephen is trying to say 'Thank you' but hasn't quite got the hang of it ;-)

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ONE post per topic.

Posting again won't alter the situation.

Wait till you get some FACTS from the man's marriage cert

Then, and only then, you can try to find out if he had siblings..................

You can't possibly know whether he had brothers and sisters until you find out who his parents were

So, wait until you get his marriage cert..................

.....then post ALL the details from it on here.

Use http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ to check for marriages of the children born 1905 onwards, most of them are to be found there. You can then cross check for any births to those marriages on freebmd up to approx 1950's (an ongoing project) or up to 2006 on other commercial sites. Then marriages of those births etc etc. until you have a living person to possibly contact.

William is quite elusive before 1911, so as mentioned, his marriage certificate, naming his father hopefully will help to track him down. I wonder if his father was in the Army and that is why? Or he wasn't born Camberwell, that may be his earliest memory of where he lived.

Deaths Sep 1905 (>99%)
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MARDEN Alice Lilian 0 Bodmin 5c 45


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Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
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MARDEN Doris Ellen 2 Bodmin 5c 47

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
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Burnard Edwin Bodmin 5c 126
>>>>Connor Peter James Bodmin 5c 126
>>>>NETHERTON Louisa Bodmin 5c 126
Pethick Annie Bodmin 5c 126

The only way to make contact with descendants is to use SEARCH at top left hand of the page and click on Search All Trees.

1891 England Census

Name: Ellen Connor
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Soter S Connor (peter J)
Mother's Name: Louisa Connor
Gender: Female
Where born: Bodmin, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Bodmin
Ecclesiastical parish: Bodmin
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Bodmin
Sub-registration district: Bodmin
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:Piece: 1816
Folio: 17
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Soter S Connor 30 (should be Peter)
Louisa Connor 37
Mary A Connor 5
Ellen Connor 3
Bernard Connor 2
John H Connor 1
Ann Netherton 65 Mother in Law

thank you for your replies most of which i know because i am his grandson we are awaiting delivery of various certs and papers but really would like to hear from a decendent of his brothers and sisters etc

? Medal Card
William Marden Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry Private 5594
Victory, British and 1914 Star
12/7/1920 - forward claim to Clasp - address
The Barracks, Bodmin, Cornwall

Card marked PofW

Births Sep 1905
Marden Alice Lilian Bodmin 5c 66

Births Mar 1907
MARDEN Doris Ellen Bodmin 5c 64

Births Sep 1908
Marden William Alfred Bodmin 5c 57

Births Mar 1910
MARDEN Leslie George Bodmin 5c 58

Births Jun 1913
Marden Florence E Conner Andover 2c 483

Births Mar 1915
Marden Ethel M La B Connor Bodmin 5c 110

Births Sep 1925
Marden Francis C Connor Edmonton 3a 804
Marden Peter C Connor Edmonton 3a 804

Rose

Buy his marriage cert., on which his father's details will be recorded. If he knew him, of course

How much research have you done?

If looking for his parents, you could start with his marriage cert which
should give you his father's name and occupation.



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Marriages Jun 1905

Connor Ellen - Bodmin 5c 127
EDWARDS Janie Margaret Bodmin 5c 127
HOPKINS Edward Thompson Bodmin 5c 127
Marden William - Bodmin 5c 127