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mark

mark Report 21 Feb 2013 21:22

I have copy of my grandfathers birth cert but can'nt find him or his mother in the 1911 census. any idea's as to where to look now as I have been looking most of this week.



junkie

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Feb 2013 21:32

It depends on which site your using but here are a couple of tips

If your having problems then try searching using less don't be to specific with your info, often less is more

eg

John Smith born 1898 york

just enter John smith born 1898+/- 5 years Yorkshire

or swap the search criteria around, even leave year of birth or forename out on occasions and don't forget the name spelling may be different and they could also be mistranscribed

Roy

Edit, if that doesn't work then come back with who your looking for and i'm sure someone will have a look for you

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2013 00:09

Name?

Parents' names?

Birthplace?

Birth year?

Which site are you using when searching?

EDIT

I see you mention only the mother..........so presumably he was illegitimate.

Check for a marriage for the mother..................and try looking under her married name if you find one

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 22 Feb 2013 09:42

And never forget the dreaded mis-transcription!!!

Example - family name Sell - found under the following and other variations = Sell, Sall, Sale. Fell, Fall, Loll it was a nightmare :-D

But I got there in the end - perseverance.

Karen in the desert

Karen in the desert Report 22 Feb 2013 10:30


Hi Mark,

If you'd like to put some info on here I am sure it won't be long before one of us takes it up and does some searching for you.
Sometimes you can look for something for so long that in the end you can't see the wood for the trees!! A fresh pair of eyes is maybe all that's needed :-D

mark

mark Report 22 Feb 2013 20:25

thank you Karen in the desert and reggie and also porkie pie all suggestions taken with thanks. My grandfather on his birth cert was given the name albert Edward Beesley, his mother was bertha Beesley and he was born on the 16 September 1902.his address was 66 St James street , Duddeston , Aston Warwickshire. We didn't know until he died that he had been adopted we knew him as Albert Edward Aldridge http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1319994# :-D

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 22 Feb 2013 20:46

From freebmd

Births Dec 1902
BEESELEY Albert Edward Aston 6d 282

surname spelling different

checked the image and it's not a transcription error

Roy

patchem

patchem Report 22 Feb 2013 22:00

Names of adopted parents\?
Thanks

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2013 22:09

Have you looked for the adoptive parents?

He was probably taken in by them soon after his birth.......certainly before he was 9, I would have thought

Did the mother register the child's birth?

patchem

patchem Report 22 Feb 2013 22:53

Do you know if this is his mother in 1901?
1901 England Census
Bertha Beeslen Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Servant Gender: Female
Where born: Kettering, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Coventry Ecclesiastical parish: Foleshill St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Household schedule number: 5 Piece: 2913 Folio: 155 Page Number: 2
Charles Christopher Chassley 35
Sarah Mary Helena Chassley 25
Lucy Chassley 60
Bertha Beeslen 16

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Feb 2013 23:23

Good spot for 1901 does look like Beesley on image

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Feb 2013 23:32

Only other Beeseleys born around that time in Warwickshire are:

Births Dec 1904
Beeseley William Henry Aston 6d 279

Births Mar 1907
BEESELEY Harry Richard Aston 6d 234

Makes me think they are Alberts's brothers.

Rose

patchem

patchem Report 22 Feb 2013 23:32

?
Marriages Mar 1917
BEESLEY Bertha Jefferson Coventry 6d 989
Jefferson George K Beesley Coventry 6d 989

??
Deaths Sep 1959
JEFFERSON Bertha 72 Aylesbury 6a 254

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Feb 2013 23:36

They are all on FMP.

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
1
HOUSEHOLD ALDRIDGE BERTHA F 1878 33 Aston Warwickshire
HOUSEHOLD ALDRIDGE MYRA LANADA F 1909 2 Aston Warwickshire
HOUSEHOLD ALDRIDGE RICHARD M 1868 43 Aston Warwickshire
HOUSEHOLD ALDRIDGE WILLIAM HENRY M 1904 7 Aston Warwickshire
HOUSEHOLD ALDRIDGE ALBT GD M 1902 9 Aston Warwickshire

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Feb 2013 23:46

Another brother:

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
ALDRIDGE George E Beesley Aston 6d 615

Rose

patchem

patchem Report 22 Feb 2013 23:47

Ancestry:
1911 England Census
Herbard Aldridge Age in 1911: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Steep Stanley, Glass
Civil parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 20 Galton St
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385 Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 18240
Herbard Aldridge 43 Gloucester RICHARD?
Bertha Aldridge 33 married 13 years, 5 children born, 3 living Stratford
Albt Gd Aldridge 9
William Hy Aldridge 7
Myra Aldridge 2
Elizabeth Debney 44
Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Feb 2013 23:47

1911 Ancestry version

Name: Herbard Aldridge
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Steep Stanley, Glass
Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Galton St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 18240
Household Members: Name Age
Herbard Aldridge 43
Bertha Aldridge 33
Albt Gd Aldridge 9
William Hy Aldridge 7
Myra Aldridge 2
Elizabeth Debney 44

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Feb 2013 23:52

Oh bother says married 13 years on image but they might have lied about that

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 23 Feb 2013 00:18

I doubt they married? as for adoption their was no legal adoption at that time so i think the children registered in mmn just adopted dads name over time

The question asked by Reggie never got answered, was he illegitimate?

and what evidance do you have for an adoption?

Roy

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Feb 2013 00:40

Richard's place of birth is Kings Stanley and Bertha's is Stratford on Avon.

Rose