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Hi,
I have just come across a record of a great uncle of mine James Urquhart. He went to Canada in June 1921 aboard the Saturnia to join his sister and drive a tractor on her farm.

Yesterday I came across a record for him being deported back to Scotland! six months later. I was a bit taken aback.

Any way I would like to ask.
Does any one know if any further records are available for deportations from this time period,as I would like to find out why he was deported.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

Thank you

Blue1

looks like he came back on the same vessel

Name: James Urquhart
Birth Date: abt 1876
Age: 45
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 2 Dec 1921
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Saturnia
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Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 113969



he is listed as deported from Halifax and his address he was returning to was

23 Greenburn Road Bucksburn Aberdeen his occ is listed as Baker

maybe he gave the wrong info to get into Canada

Hi Shirley,
That's the record I found yesterday. The address is the same one listed on his first departure from Glasgow.

I shall check out where his sister was living at the time as he was supposed to be with her.

Sorry about the delay in replying,had a phone call from my daughter who has just been for tests at the Dr's

Blue1

are you sure its the same man as the occ differ

Britain: outbound passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 - person transcript

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Name: James URQUHART
Date of departure: 2 June 1921
Port of departure: Glasgow
Destination port: Quebec
Destination country: Canada
Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 45
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 25 of 32
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
John URQUHART
Ship: SATURNIA
Official Number: 129489
Master's name: David Taylor
Steamship Line: Anchor-Donaldson
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 19112
Registered tonnage: 5494
Passengers on voyage: 1042


he is a farm Labourer seems a jump 6 months later to be a Baker ??


Edit our posts crossed yes its the same address as the return one.

Maybe he was let in for his occ which differed so his visa, or whatever they had then , was revoked.

On his arrival he says he was going to join his sister in Headingley, Manitoba.
His occupation was fireman but intended occupation was tractor driver.

Hi Shirley,

Thanks for looking for me
I think he may have fibbed about occupation. On another doc he gives his sister's name and address as where he is heading. Many of his family were Baker's in Aberdeen.

I've checked out his sister and husband. In 1923 they were still at Headingly Manitoba. Halifax is I think in Nova Scotia,so maybe that's where the problem lies.
The deportation has the same address as next of Kin on his entry to Canada.

I don't know it's a mystery. I think I will try to find his marriage and death hopefully in Scotland today. Maybe if added to my tree it could provide some more info from his decendents if any.

Blue1

Hi Margee,
Thanks
Just noticed your input.

Seems the only things that are correct is his name,sisters info and address back in Aberdeen!

The last Census I have for him is in 1881 I've never been able to find him with his wife?

Blue1

Halifax was one of the ports of entry to Canada back then ............ Montreal was another.

He would have gone through Immigration and Customs there


I think it would have been something other than just declaring himself a farm labourer instead of Baker that would cause his deportation ................... Canada was desperate for people to work on farms back then. They were still opening up the Prairies.


The most usual cause, as now, would be a criminal record.

I googled "deportation from canada 1920s"

and this came up, along with several other references.

It looks as though you can open the manuscript .........


http://www.ruor.uottawa.ca/en/handle/10393/12961



sorry, I have to go out




sylvia