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elizabeth monk my missing relative

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david

david Report 16 Mar 2013 13:02

1861 Census Record
Personal Information
Name Dennis Bulger
Age 36
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Prisoner
Occupation Labourer
Address
District Durham, St Oswald
Parish St Oswalds Elvet
Administrative County Durham
Birth Place Ireland
Birth County
Reference Information
Folio 110
Page 3
Piece RG90
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

is this him ?

whatever did he do ?

Flip

Flip Report 16 Mar 2013 12:11

Denis Bulger
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 39
Death Year: abt 1868
Burial Date: 22 Jul 1868
Parish: Ford Cemetery

From Liverpool catholic burials

Flip

Flip Report 16 Mar 2013 12:06

Mother already a widow in 1871:

Margaret Bolger
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 83
Piece: 3758
Folio: 92
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Kinsley 32
Johannah Kinsley 41
Thomas Kinsley 5
Elizabeth Griffin 61
Margaret Bolger 39
Mary Bolger 15
Catherine Bolger 12
John Bolger 9
Margaret Bolger 1

1861:

Mary Bolger
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Denis Bolger
Mother's name: Margaret Bolger
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 2652
Folio: 184
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Denis Bolger 34
Margaret Bolger 27
Mary Bolger 4
Catharine Bolger 1

Flip

Flip Report 16 Mar 2013 12:02

Catherine's sister christening for parents names:

Margareta Bulger
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1869
Baptism Date: 14 Mar 1869
Parish: Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette
Father's Name: Dionisii Bulger
Mother's name: Margtae Ryan

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 16 Mar 2013 11:34

I don't know if you are looking into Catherine Bulger's family but is this of any use

1881 - Preston
Christopher Alston 50
Margaret Alston 49
Mary Bulger 24
Catherine Bulger 21 - daughter born Liverpool
Mary E. Alston 15
Agnes Alston 11
Margaret Bulger 12

from lan-opc.org.uk

Marriage: 8 Jul 1876 St Mark, Preston, Lancashire, England
Christopher Alston - 47, Brewer, Widower, Croft St.
Margaret Bulger - (X), 42, Widow, Poplar St.
Groom's Father: Richard Alston, Farmer
Bride's Father: Patrick Ryan, Labourer
Witness: John Emsworth, (X); Elizabeth Cook, (X)
Married by Banns by: Thos. Johnson, Incumbent

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 16 Mar 2013 11:14

so taken with the info from your great aunt that 1930's marriage ticks all the boxes after all - good news

thank you for your kind comments about the GR community. We all love a challenge

david

david Report 16 Mar 2013 10:50

thanks mgnv

another son for thomas and elizabeth born 1908 west derby

david

david Report 16 Mar 2013 10:07

thanks ive found them thats great :-)

first time ive used the genes community and i am VERY VERY impressed

my MONK family are a nightmare but i have now got elizabeth and her 7 siblings recorded

the earlier generation is even worse, travelers, lots with similar names, cousin marriages and missing from census records

but they are so exciting

mgnv

mgnv Report 16 Mar 2013 09:36

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1882
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BOSWELL Thomas Arthur Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services WILLIAMS B/22/319
http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/

Also see https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFVD-7BG

Flip

Flip Report 16 Mar 2013 08:43

John A Boswell married Ethel M Leech in 1928, Ethel died in 1980, I think they had 2 sons and a daughter between 1928 and 1941, but I won't post their details as they may be still alive. You can find them on Cumbriabmd, and their youngest son may still be living in Barrow.

patchem

patchem Report 16 Mar 2013 06:47

Mother's maiden name.

david

david Report 16 Mar 2013 06:21

sorry what is mmn ?

"search with mmn to find them"

david

david Report 16 Mar 2013 06:18

hi everyone

when i made my initial query on this board i did not reveal my great aunts information which was

the names

"boswel" and "bradley"," johhny boswel" and she knew uncle emmanuel

my aunt lives in bolton

she also said johnny boswell came from cumbria

my great aunt was born in 1940 so elizabeth must have been living well into her 60s

she also said elizabeth was "a good laugh" and she liked "cowboy films"

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 15 Mar 2013 23:32

I would be tempted to say the 1930's marriage was not your Elizabeth Monk. THere are a few Elizabeth Boswells around

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1930
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BOSWELL Elizabeth BRADLEY Emmanuel Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/221/102

On lancs bmd frequently if it is a second marriage the previous name is also shown in the index - not always but it could be used as an indication

However if you do order the certificate if you stand Elizabeth's father's name and it is not correct they will refund your money., but the name has to be exactly what is written on the certificate

Flip

Flip Report 15 Mar 2013 19:33

Hi David, you can't be sure about the Bolton marriage for Elizabeth without a certificate to confirm it - unless your elderly relative remembers more about her husbands.

A tree on Ancestry had a death for Thomas, in US sometime in the 1940s (sorry I'm away all week and can't remember exact details), but after looking at the death they connected to I don't think they have the right person - birth quarter/year match, but he was not Thomas Arthur, he was Thomas John according to the burial record.

I guess you've found Cumbriabmd for John Arthur's death, in that case you should also be able to find his marriage and children - married in Barrow, 3 children born there - you can search with mmn to find them.

david

david Report 13 Mar 2013 21:41

John Arthur Boswell born 31st August, 1906 dies Barrow in Furness May 1998 age 91

david

david Report 13 Mar 2013 21:37

1930 marriage bolton

elizabeth boswell marries emmanuel bradley

so what has happened to thomas boswell ?

david

david Report 13 Mar 2013 21:24

i think you are right flip

far more practical than me lol

Flip

Flip Report 13 Mar 2013 16:46

Isn't it more likely they went to visit Thomas's mother in America for a short time and just came back but later decided to emigrate?

It would be very difficult to get news of a death to them, arrange passage home and get back in time for a funeral - unless there was a lengthy delay between death and burial.

david

david Report 12 Mar 2013 14:29

yes i think this is the death of catherine monk

december 1905 liverpool

catherine Monk (nee bulger was born 1859) in liverpool so she would be aged 45 at death

probably the reason elizabeth boswsll came home from america for the funeral