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This could be his death:

Deaths Dec 1954 (>99%)
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Howard Albert A 63 Hackney 5c 610

I don't know if this is a bit too complicated, but might it be worth pursuing Barbara's family, maybe somebody out there is connected to them?

I suspect this might be them maybe?? Father below is a clerk of works. Barbara's father on marriage cert is a civil engineer surveyor, I think that fits.

Births Sep 1878
Fitter Barbara Atherstone 6d 463

1901 England Census
Name: Barbara Fitter
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Fitter
Mother's name: Jane Fitter
Gender: Female
Where born: Atherstone, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Middlesex

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham

John Fitter 57
Jane Fitter 57
Barbara Fitter 22
Guy A Fitter 18
Margaret J Fitter 14
Mary Clarke 77
Minnie P Sadler 3


1911 England Census
Name: Barbara Colt
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Atherstone, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 71 Steele Road, Tottenham N
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Independent
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: East Tottenham

John Henry Costin 42
Lilian Costin 39
John Costin 14
Albert Costin 4
Barbara Colt 36

A tree on Ancestry has these children:

Simon Lawrence Howard1893 –
Amelia Lilian Howard1894 –
Adelaide May Howard1899 – 1990
Hazel Howard1902 – 1970
Joshua Howard1903 –
Julia Howard1904

I can't find any of them on the 1911. It maybe that the family emigrated and then returned to England. - there is a marriage for Adelaide to Arthur George Singleton in 1921 in Hackney.

There is a detailed tree on Ancestry, which has the above marriage for him. There are a few more children, all the younger ones in workhouses 1911, but they have no more info about Albert.
Apparently Simon emigrated to America - they have a full history for him.
Jan

Can I find out any other information about him? eg where he lived, where he is buried etc.,

This looks like the Simon in the 1901:

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
about Lawrence Simon Howard
Name: Lawrence Simon Howard
Age: 4
Birth Date: 27 May 1893
School: St Paul's School
Borough: Hackney
Admission Date: 6 Sep 1897
Parent: Albert
Parent 2: Catherine
Notes: Saint Paul's School opened 1870. Renamed Saint Paul's with Saint Michael's School in 1981
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV04/STPAU/AD/010

and this could be him coming from South Africa, he is an aviator:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Mr Lawrence Simon Howards
Name: Mr Lawrence Simon Howards
Birth Date: abt 1893
Age: 22
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 2 Sep 1915
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: East London
[Port Elizabeth]
[Cape Town]
[Plymouth]
Ship Name: Walmer Castle
Search Ship Database: View the 'Walmer Castle' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 114839

Yes...thank you, this could well be him, he was a furniture dealer......thank you

Could he have remarried:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Albert Howard - upholsterer - 1901 occupation Furniture dealer
Name: Albert Howard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Age: 50
Spouse Name: Barbara Ashley-colt
Spouse Age: 42
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Dec 1920
Parish: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Charles Howard - chairmaker
Spouse Father Name: John Fitter
Register Type: Parish Register

Albert & Catherine in 1901:

1901 England Census
about Albert Howard
Name: Albert Howard
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Howard
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 217
Folio: 57
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Howard 32
Catherine Howard 31
Simon Howard 7
Amelia Howard 6
Adelaide Howard 2

Catherine's death?:

Deaths Dec 1906 (>99%)
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Howard Catherine 36 W. Ham 4a 118

Sorry...he was born in 1869...Jean

he married in 1892 so can't have been born in 1896

do you have his correct birth date


Civil registration event: Marriage
View the original image

Name: HOWARD, Albert Abraham

Registration district: [?] London City

County: London

Year of registration: 1892

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 1C

Page no: [?] 112
MarriageFinder™: [?] Albert Abraham Howard married one of the following people Transcript
BAMBERGER, Catherine

regards
maddie

Trying to trace my Great Grandfather (above) he married Catherine Bamberger at the great synagogue in London in 1882, Catherine died at an early age and is buried in the Plashet cemetary in London, they had several children my grandma Amelia was one, I can find no trace of Albert after Catherine's death in 1906, an extensive search on several sites have drawn a blank...can anyone help?
Thanks Jean