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date of birth on death certs

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Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 18:40

Does anyone know if the date of birth will be on the death certificate in 1906? If so could I view the death cert at the reg office for free?

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Apr 2013 18:44

No and No

Roy

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 18:45

If this is England, No the date of birth was not added until 1969.

You cannot view certificates free, but the index will show age at death, as given by the informant.
NB......This is not always correct age, even when informant is a close relative.

If you like to post some details of what you are looking for, members will do their best to help.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Apr 2013 18:47

To put it bluntly. In England and Wales

No and No

The certificate will have the age at death, as known to the informant. I think the dob was included about 1965 [edit - Gwyn says 1969]

You can only view the details of a death certificate by purchasing it - either at the issuing Register Office, or from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 18:49

thank you. I cant find the birth of john dunn and havent much to go on. He was born in liverpool about 1854. He died March 1906 in Bury Lancashire.
so i thought if I got hisdeath cert it may give me more clues.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 18:52

Did he marry.... If so what was his father's name and occupation ?

Do you have John on any census ...Where?

Although his birth should have been registered, it is possible that it wasn't, but a few clues might lead to a baptism which might show a birth date.

Gwyn

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 18:55

yes he married matilda herron and he is on a census as half brother to joseph pink. i'll get the details just a mo

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Apr 2013 19:01

As it wasn't compulsary to register births until the 1870's, his parents may not have bothered.

If you haven't already, bookmark this site for Lancashire BMD

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:02

1871 census windle lancashire with joseph pink 1848 and josephs wife eliza.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 19:11

So...1871

Name: Joseph Pink
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Pink
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Windle
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 159
Piece: 3863
Folio: 17
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Pink 22
Eliza Pink 18
George Pink 2
Mary A Pink 3 Months
John Dunn 16 ........half brother b. Everton





Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:13

He was a herbalist. If Joseph Pink is his half brother then his mum is called Mary. I think his dad was called John. Mary Holt married Spencer and he died she then married George Pink and he died. Then she had John Dunn but I cant find a marriage to johns dad.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 19:17

...Perhaps they didn't marry ?

1861
Joseph is shown as Grandson to Abraham INGRAM and his wife Elizabeth.
Abraham is a herbalist.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:20

he married Matilda Herron Jan 1878 which shows his dad as John Dunn.
1861 census Everton
1881 I can't find it
1891 Bury Lancs

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:23

yes I don't know why he is their grandson. It would mean that Pink married Ingram and had Joseph. I sent away for Joseph Pinks birth cert and it gave his dad as George Pink

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:30

The birth cert for Joesph Pinks shows 1st may 1848 boy Joseph John Pinks, father Joesph George Pinks and Mary Ann formally Holt. address Margaret terrace Hygeia St Everton.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:51

I wonder if Thomas and Margaret Holt on the 1861 census are related to them.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 5 Apr 2013 21:24

If he was born in Everton then this west derby birth is a possibility
Births Dec 1853
DUNN John W Derby 8b 347


Roy

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Apr 2013 22:21

Try the following site for possible baptism

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

On the marriage cert....................what was his father's occupation?

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Apr 2013 22:30

1901 census

Person: DUNN, Matilda Address: 83, Paradise Street, Bury

DUNN, John Head Married M 46 1855 Botanist (Shop Keeper)
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
DUNN, Matilda Wife Married F 40 1861 Sick Nurse
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
DUNN, Mary Daughter Single F 18 1883 Cotton Winder
Bolton, Lancashire

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Apr 2013 22:40

For INFO

Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%)
DUNNE John Bolton 8c 325
HERRON Matilda Bolton 8c 325

They should be in Bolton in 1881, but there is no sign of them........