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Rosalinda Report 7 Apr 2013 10:06



+++DetEcTive+++ Report 7 Apr 2013 09:54

This one?

James Dunn
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Dunn
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
Name Age
James Dunn 35 - Stone Mason
Mary Dunn 35
James Dunn 10
Ellen J Dunn 5
John Dunn 3
Agness Dunn 1
Samuel Green 47 - Lodger, a Cotton Porter, b Haroldshead? Lancs
Matha Green 54 - Lodger's wife b Middlesex.

RG10; Piece: 3812; Folio: 16; Page: 25

23 Cornwall Street


Rosalinda Report 7 Apr 2013 08:45

Thanks Reggie. I have found James Dunn 1836 on 1871 census in Everton - born Liverpool.---on Family Search.
Please could you let me know his occupation and address on that. I may have to look at him to see if his Dad James and my John were brothers.


Reggie Report 6 Apr 2013 09:19

1851 census

Person: DUNN, Joseph Address: 26, Prince Edwin Lane, Everton, Liverpool

DUNN, James Head Married M 53 1798 Shoe Maker
Ireland VIEW
DUNN, Mary Wife Married F 40 1811
Ireland VIEW
DUNN, James Son Unmarried M 14 1837
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
DUNN, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 11 1840
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
DUNN, Joseph Son Unmarried M 2 1849
Everton, Lancashire


Rosalinda Report 6 Apr 2013 09:19



Reggie Report 6 Apr 2013 09:14

It won't.

Maiden names of married women were not added to certs until 1969

What it will tell you is the name of her husband.....IF she was married

Find the refs you need by looking at freebmd


Rosalinda Report 6 Apr 2013 08:24

On the marriage cert it shows Johns Dad AS John Dunne Sailor.

Just some bits of facts:

1891 census John is called Dumne and is living in Bury. He has a cousin Joseph Dunne 1848 travelling botanist.

There is a John Dunn on 1861 census at 18 Hygeia St aged 6 parents John and Mary.
My great gran was born at 14 Manor St Little Bolton in 1883 and the Pinks are on the 1881 census at this address which give me the link to the Pinks in the first place.

Please Could someone look up the death of Mary Ann Dunn Born 1819 and died 1869 JAN BOLTON. I am considering sending for the death cert to see if it gives her maiden name.


Reggie Report 5 Apr 2013 23:05

1851 census

Person: PINK, Joseph Address: 2, Court, Hygcia St, Everton, Liverpool

PINK, George Head Married M 30 1821 Chimney Sweeper
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
PINK, Mary A Wife Married F 32 1819
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
PINK, Betsy Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
PINK, Joseph Son Unmarried M 3 1848
Lancaster, Lancashire VIEW
NUTTAL, James Head Unmarried M 22 1829 Labourer
Rochdale VIEW


Reggie Report 5 Apr 2013 22:40


Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%)
DUNNE John Bolton 8c 325
HERRON Matilda Bolton 8c 325

They should be in Bolton in 1881, but there is no sign of them........


Reggie Report 5 Apr 2013 22:30

1901 census

Person: DUNN, Matilda Address: 83, Paradise Street, Bury

DUNN, John Head Married M 46 1855 Botanist (Shop Keeper)
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
DUNN, Matilda Wife Married F 40 1861 Sick Nurse
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
DUNN, Mary Daughter Single F 18 1883 Cotton Winder
Bolton, Lancashire


Reggie Report 5 Apr 2013 22:21

Try the following site for possible baptism

On the marriage cert....................what was his father's occupation?


Porkie_Pie Report 5 Apr 2013 21:24

If he was born in Everton then this west derby birth is a possibility
Births Dec 1853
DUNN John W Derby 8b 347



Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:51

I wonder if Thomas and Margaret Holt on the 1861 census are related to them.


Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:30

The birth cert for Joesph Pinks shows 1st may 1848 boy Joseph John Pinks, father Joesph George Pinks and Mary Ann formally Holt. address Margaret terrace Hygeia St Everton.


Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:23

yes I don't know why he is their grandson. It would mean that Pink married Ingram and had Joseph. I sent away for Joseph Pinks birth cert and it gave his dad as George Pink


Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:20

he married Matilda Herron Jan 1878 which shows his dad as John Dunn.
1861 census Everton
1881 I can't find it
1891 Bury Lancs

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 19:17

...Perhaps they didn't marry ?

Joseph is shown as Grandson to Abraham INGRAM and his wife Elizabeth.
Abraham is a herbalist.


Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:13

He was a herbalist. If Joseph Pink is his half brother then his mum is called Mary. I think his dad was called John. Mary Holt married Spencer and he died she then married George Pink and he died. Then she had John Dunn but I cant find a marriage to johns dad.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Apr 2013 19:11


Name: Joseph Pink
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Pink
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Windle
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 159
Piece: 3863
Folio: 17
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Pink 22
Eliza Pink 18
George Pink 2
Mary A Pink 3 Months
John Dunn 16 ........half brother b. Everton


Rosalinda Report 5 Apr 2013 19:02

1871 census windle lancashire with joseph pink 1848 and josephs wife eliza.