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KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2013 20:50

Of mine married his wife in Feb 1909 and died in Nov 1909 in Lucknow India .......I think I,m being stupid but surely it would have taken that long to get there?? .......It snowhere near the coast!!
How would he have got there and why did he go ???

Any Ideas
he said he was a carman in his 20s ....I know there was lots of conflict there at that time but wish I could know some more even if its just a guess

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Apr 2013 21:45

Perhaps his work took him there.

He probably went by train and I wouldn't think it would take all that long to get there - certainly not 9 months anyway.

Kath. x

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Apr 2013 22:09

Nine months is a steady fastish pace, but feasible. However, I think it's highly unlikely he would have walked all the way from Calais. It's much more likely that he took a boat to, say, Bombay or Calcutta (using the raj names), and then took a train - 3 weeks at the outside limit.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 21 Apr 2013 00:36

Have you looked on the Passenger lists on ancestry?

Susan

Susan Report 21 Apr 2013 10:26


He could have very well been in the Military at that time worth checking that out .

Sue

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 21 Apr 2013 12:03

Am I missing something?
They marry in Feb 1909
He dies Nov 1909 in India

Where did they marry UK or India?

And if they married in UK why are we assuming that it took that long to get to India?

If in the Military, he may have married in UK on leave, gone back to India and then died there. No long journey



:-S <3

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Apr 2013 13:37

Thank you everyone

He wasnt in the military unless he signed in after the marriege They married in London England and his wife stayed in England ....His family had a large home in London which they seemed to own.

I,ve looked on Ancestry for possible travel to India by boat but theres nothing but its psooible he does show on FMP but I dont have access to that ....it may be that I will need to pay to view that entry

Lucknow is right in the middle of India so I guess if he did take the boat it may then need land travel

ONE thing has come to light his uncle was a Vicar ....prehaps this man went out there to teach or meet up with him

Many Thanks for your kind help will continue to look.....

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Apr 2013 14:11

Do you want to give any details so we can take a look for you and save you buying credits?

jax

jax Report 21 Apr 2013 14:22

They had trains in India in 1909 just like the rest of the world, so it was'nt that difficult getting around I would not have thought

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Apr 2013 14:40

Hi Jax

yes the trains in that area were being constructed and that may be another reason he went there

It would be grat if someone could look for me but again the entries are not as I feel they should be


The mans name is
Thomas Gorden Wolstencroft born 1880 London
Marriage to Kate pogson born 1882
He died entry found
Name: Thomas Gordon Wolstencroft
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 06 Nov 1909
Burial Place: Lucknow, Bengal, India
Death Date: 06 Nov 1909
Death Place:
Age: 29
Birth Date: 1880
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B75042-6
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 528128
Reference Number:
Collection: India Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948


The only entry for travel is G wolstencroft male going to bengal from London in that year

jax

jax Report 21 Apr 2013 14:53

Name: S G WOLSTENCROFT
Date of departure: 18 February 1909
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Bombay, India
Passenger destination: Bombay, India
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Gent
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 3

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Report transcript error Ship: ARABIA
Official Number: 105587
Master's name: T Leigh
Steamship Line: P & O S N Coy
Where bound: Bombay, India
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 4167
Passengers on voyage: 64

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KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Apr 2013 15:07

This family are totally out of "reach" I dont think that this is him but Thank you so much ....I guess the train is the only other possible !!

I dont think I,m ever going to undo some of this families mistories

Thank you everyone

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 21 Apr 2013 17:29

According to Victorian Occupations, a carman could work for the railways, so perhaps he was sent out by one of the railway companies?

Have you got his death certificate? The cause of death could be a clue as to why he was there.

The link below makes interesting reading and the short quote shows that by 1909 there would have been no problem getting across India by train.


http://vadakkus.com/2012/05/25/indian-railways-story-02/

There was no looking back after that. Railway lines snaked across all over India at incredible speed and by 1900, undivided India had a whopping 24,000 km of Railway Track and more than 50 scheduled services.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Apr 2013 17:36

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_person_search.php

(above has Grave location)

Chris :)

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Apr 2013 18:21

chris Ho Thank you for that ...yes I did try hunting it some months ago but couldnt find anything

I dont have a death certificate as when the death registration was found I had a chat with 3 ladies who didnt seem to think I would be able to get it ....as it was probably in india!!?? but they did know a site with a couple who helpped trace Indian relli8es but sadly they had both passed away so that site is now dorment!!

so seems a dead end!

But Thank you again and I will look at both the links you have given me


I changed my way of search and found his grave entry

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D