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~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 21 Apr 2013 19:27

Thanks Gwen in Kent & MarieCeleste

Kucinta, Wow that's interesting. As far as I was concerned there was no connection to the Robinsons,


That can't be him because James Lewis Miller b 1888/3 was a joiner by trade and the one you found was a parcel packer.

I couldn't find any match either, thought it was just me, as I kept getting both father and son mixed up.

Thanks guys for all your help. It's very much appreciated.

Regards Lou


MarieCeleste Report 21 Apr 2013 19:18

Re: the birth that Andy posted above, I think that's this chap in 1911:

MILLER, James Lewis Head Married M 29 1882 Parcel Packer Machester Lanc
MILLER, Mary Wife F 28 1883 Day Cleaner Mow Cop Chesire
MILLER, Mary Holland Daughter F 1 (17 MONTHS) 1910 Macclesfield Chesire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 21472
Reference: RG14PN21472 RG78PN1279 RD444 SD4 ED8 SN218
Registration District: Macclesfield
Sub District: Macclesfield
Enumeration District: 8
Parish: Macclesfield

Address: 5 North Street Macclesfield County: Cheshire

I can't see any other man with that middle name born around that time.


Kucinta Report 21 Apr 2013 19:16

Marriages Dec 1922

MILLER Frances A Robinson Chorlton 8c 1544
ROBINSON Ephraim Miller Chorlton 8c 1544


Kucinta Report 21 Apr 2013 19:12

In the probate Andy mentioned, James Lewis Miller of Ardwick , the probate was granted to Frances Agnes Robinson (wife of Ephraim Robinson)

Don't know if that helps to confirm or eliminate him?


MarieCeleste Report 21 Apr 2013 19:03

Lou - probate records like the one Andy posted don't show who he left money to, it gives the name to the person who was granted probate or administration - usually someone who was capable of dealing with that sort of matter.

What was his father's name and occupation on the marriage certificate?

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 21 Apr 2013 19:02

If it was a sudden death, he may have been away from home or in hospital.

My dad died suddenly on a day out in another town.
He'd never lived there.

~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 21 Apr 2013 18:56

Thanks Andrew,

I did look for probate but couldn't find him, so thanks for that. But isn't that address in Manchester?

I'd have thought as he died in Liverpool his address wouldn't be Manchester?

Ive just taken a look at it can't be him as he's left money someone else and not his wife & young son.


~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 21 Apr 2013 18:54

Andrew, I did find that birth, but I wasn't sure it was him as it's Chorlton and he married in Liverpool, do you think that could be him then?



Andrew Report 21 Apr 2013 18:37


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about James Lewis Miller
James Lewis Miller
Probate Date:
24 Nov 1939
Death Date:
15 Mar 1935
Death Place:
Manchester, England
London, England

of 17 Marsland Street
Hyde Road Ardwick
Effects £20



Andrew Report 21 Apr 2013 18:36


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)

MILLER James Lewis Chorlton 8c 786


~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 21 Apr 2013 18:26

I'm trying to help a friend and I am having a great deal of difficulty in doing so, and would really appreciate some help or advice. I recently put up a thread regarding his occupation and thought I was on the right track, but kept getting mixed up with their occupations and various areas of birth, but it's just getting more and more confusing. So I'm starting afresh again and still getting stuck so I would really appreciate any help.

I am looking for the Miller family only;

This is all the information I actually do have;

James Lewis Miller married in 1931 to a Mary Hughes.
He was a 48 yr old bachelor and a ships steward, she was 29 and single.
They were living at Richmond Terrace, Liverpool at the time of their marriage.

As far as we know they had 1 child also named James Lewis Miller in 1931 Liverpool.

The family are Church of England.

I have tried searching the 1911 census for James Snr. as a ships steward without any luck.

I haven't tried searching for him aboard ship because I don't know how to or where to go for the records or indeed who he worked for.

They do not know if he had siblings. We know he died very early into the marriage as his wife remarried in 1940 in Liverpool S.

I have searched the records for a death for James Lewis Miller and come across this one which I think fits; -- James L Miller age 52 Liverpool N

Can any one help or advise where to look next.

Thanks Lou