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Mary Elizabeth Hannah WARWICK

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Barbara

Barbara Report 9 May 2013 10:24

I would like to make contact with any researcher that has Mary Elizabeth Hannah WARWICK in their family tree as I have a collection of portrait photographs that I found in a Antique shop, one being of the above Mary aged 9 years. This photograph was taken by A & G Taylor photographers in London.
Amongst the collection are photo's taken in England, Australia and New Zealand, many of them would be pre 1900. A majority of the English photos are taken in Peckham and only a few have names or messages written.

I am not sure if this is the appropriate Chat site for the above query.

jax

jax Report 9 May 2013 10:41

Hi Barbara

You would do best to search the trees on here, if you then find a connection you can send the tree owner a message

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 May 2013 11:27

The only birth coming up

Births Dec 1870
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WARWICK Mary Elizabeth H - Holborn 1b 627




Name: Mary Elizabeth Hannah Warwick
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1870
Father's Name: Alfred Warwick
Mother's Name: Mary Warwick
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Bride Fleet Street
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 May 2013 11:33

1871

Alfred Warwick 42
Mary Warwick 41
Lydie E M Warwick 4
Mary E N Warwick- 7 Months ( original says H not N

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 May 2013 11:38

Sadly looks like Mary's sister died as a child


Name: Lydia Elizabeth Mary Warwick
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1867
Father's Name: Alfred Warwick
Mother's Name: Mary Warwick
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Bride Fleet Street
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers



Name: Lydia Elizabeth M Warwick
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1871
Age at Death: 4
Registration district: Holbron
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 444

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 May 2013 11:43

Looks like Alfred named his eldest daughter after his mother


Name: Alfred Warwick
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Mar 1829
Father's Name: Charles Anthong Warwick
Mother's Name: Lydia Warwick
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 16:52

Census 1911

Address: 67 Ramsden Road Balham S W County: London

BARON, James Head Married M 54 1857 Club Butler Gloucestershire Newent
BARON, Lydia E Wife Married F 51 1860 London St Brides Fleet ST
BARON, Margaret E Daughter Single F 32 1879 Assistant Manageress Aerated Bread Co London Westminster
BARON, Henry J W Son Single M 16 1895 Junior Clerk London St Georges Hanover Square
BARON, Lydia V Daughter F 12 1899 At School London St Georges Hanover Square
WARWICK, Mary E H Cousin Single F 40 1871 London Clerkenwell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

The Barons, married 17 yrs, 3 children born of the marriage, two livng, one deceased.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 16:56

Looks like it was Lydia who was Mary's cousin

Census 1911 said James and Lydia had been married 17 yrs

Name: James Baron widower, confectioner.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Age: 35
Spouse Name: Lydia Emma Warwick<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Dec 1893
Parish: Hornsey Rise
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Baron - parish clerk
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Warwick - stationer
Register Type: Parish Register

Mary Elizabeth Hannah Warwick was a witness as was a Joseph Warwick (can't read his middle name).

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 17:02

So it looks like these two Baron children from census 1911 are Mary's first cousins once removed:

BARON, Henry J W Son Single M 16 1895 Junior Clerk London St Georges Hanover Square
BARON, Lydia V Daughter F 12 1899 At School London St Georges Hanover Square

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 17:05

Looks like Henry J W Baron married and lived a long life::

Name: Henry Joseph William Baron - clerk P.L.A.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 26
Spouse Name: Hilda May Barry
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Jun 1921
Parish: Kensington St Philip
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: James Baron - club steward
Spouse Father Name: Richard Edmund Barry - tailor
Register Type: Parish Register

FreeBMD

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

has two possible Baron sons mmn Barry born Wandsworth 1924 & 1926.

Death:

Name: Henry Joseph W Baron
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1894
Date of Registration: Sep 1990
Age at Death: 95
Registration district: Lewes
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 1135

and death of wife:

Name: Hilda May Baron
Birth Date: 29 May 1893
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1981
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Eastbourne
Inferred County: East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 0453

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 17:17

Mary's death in similar location to that of her cousin's son and his wife?

Name: Mary E H Warwick
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Eastbourne
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 338

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 22:25

Have pmed the trail to a possible great grandson of Lydia Warwick, Mary's cousin, as I'm not sure how many people in the chain might still be living.

There may well be closer relatives, I just followed this link and found what I believe is a current address.

EDIT: At least one person has Lydia Warwick on their GR tree, and a few might have her son Henry Baron 1894 on their tree.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 22:57

According to a tree on Ancestry, Lydia Warwick Baron's daughter Lydia Violet (mentioned in census 1911 posted earlier), went to Australia at some point and returned, married and died in England .

It cites these records

Name: Lydia V Baron
Birth Date: abt 1898
Age: 32
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 11 Aug 1930
Port of Arrival: Hull, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne
[Colombo]
[Sydney]
[Adelaide]
[Southampton]
Ship Name: Moreton Bay
Search Ship Database: View the 'Moreton Bay' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line
Official Number: 130169

Marriage:

Name: Lydia V Baron
Spouse Surname: Perkins
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1933
Registration district: Aylesbury
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3605

Spouse: William E Perkins Baron Jul-Aug-Sep 1933 Aylesbury Buckinghamshire


Death:

Name: Lydia Violet Perkins
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1898
Date of Registration: Jun 1990
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Hastings and Rother
Inferred County: East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 712

According to the tree a son was born to the marriage.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 9 May 2013 23:02

Looks like Lydia V went out on 1925:


Name: Miss Lydia V BARON
Date of departure: 11 September 1925
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Melbourne
Destination country: Australia
Date of Birth: 1898 (calculated from age)
Age: 27
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Teacher
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 10 of 21
Ship: DIOGENES
Official Number: 144814
Master's name: A D Young
Steamship Line: Aberdeen Line
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 13143
Registered tonnage: 7339.2
Passengers on voyage: 665

Barbara

Barbara Report 10 May 2013 01:05

Thank you Kucinta for that research. I will send the person you mentioned a letter as these photos are actually in New Zealand.
I also came to the conclusion that Mary EH WARWICK died a single woman. But there may be extended family still in Australia or NZ.