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Harry and Rosa Cotterill update

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~flying doctor~

~flying doctor~ Report 20 May 2013 21:07

Poss 1880s. I don't know Rosa's surname before she married Harry. I am doing this for a friend and believe that we have ancestors in common. Can anyone help. Place Parkgate near Rotherham, line originally from Staffordshire. I am going to work now but will be back tomorrow evening, Thanks in anticipation of result or non for your time. Elaine.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 May 2013 21:16

Any idea when Harry was born

When were they supposed to be in Rotherham

Is a marriage in 1945 to Rosa M Makin too late

jax

jax Report 20 May 2013 21:22

Marriages Sep 1945 (>99%)
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Cotterill Harry Makin Rother V. 9c 2034
Makin Rosa M Cotterill Rother V. 9c 2034

jax

jax Report 20 May 2013 23:24

Death record transcript
Name: COTTERILL, Harry
Registration district: [?] Rotherham
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1985
Month of registration: June
Date of Birth:28 April 1923

Volume no: 3
Page no: 922
Reg no: 685


Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Cotterill Harry Cook Rotherham 9c 1322

~flying doctor~

~flying doctor~ Report 21 May 2013 19:38

I am awaiting an eye operation so can spend very little time on the computer. I am also working on the sparce information that the person interested gave me,so thought of the genes family.I have been told that Harry Cotterills father was called William {Bill}. Now I do know that my paternal grandfather had 2 brothers/ step brothers, one called Bill and one called Will who I met when a child. My grandfather was George Cotterill 1880s roughly and his father was Robert Smith Cotterill his mother was Emma and she was called Cotterill before their marriage. I gave Rotherham as the place of birth as this is correct for Harry,sorry about the time scale it is roughly when Harry's father was born. I feel Reggie well told off.Elaine.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 May 2013 23:23

This looks to be George based on what you say:

Births Jun 1888
COTTERILL George Rotherham 9c 630

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 May 2013 23:27

1881 census:

Name: Robt Cotterill
Age (Original): 30
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1851
Birthplace: Darleston, Staffordshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Miner (C)
Address: 23 Peel Street
Event Place: Tamworth, Staffordshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341663
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2768 / 84
Page Number: 39
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Robt Cotterill M 30 Darleston, Staffordshire, England
Wife Emma Cotterill F 23 Tamworth, Staffordshire, England
Son William Cotterill M 3 Tamworth, Staffordshire, England
Daughter Elizabeth Cotterill F 0 Tamworth, Staffordshire, England

Rose

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Was Will actually Benjamin William?

Deaths Jun 1960
COTTERILL Benjamin 83 Rotherham 2c 589
COTTERILL Benjamin W 83 Rotherham 2c 589

Rose

~flying doctor~

~flying doctor~ Report 22 May 2013 20:11

Rose I am working on my family as I have the info but you have it exactly right. My grandfathers family moved to Parkgate Rotherham just before my grandfather George was born.The lady who I am trying to help asked her father and they moved from Staffordshire about the same time to exactly the same area as my family and they have the same surname. I know that my great grandparents had their own children but others named Cotterill who they brought up as their own. I was just told that they were step brothers. It is as you see quite complicated. Thanks for helping me Elaine.

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See if you can get some more info. and dates from your friend. A marriage in 1945 seems a little late.

Rose

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Robert died in 1896:

Deaths Mar 1896
Cotterill Robert Smith 45 Rotherham 9c 410

but there is another one:

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
COTTERILL Robert Smith Tamworth 6b 466


Rose

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Benjamin William:

Marriages Jun 1899
Concom Florence Mary Rotherham 9c 1201
Cotterill Benjamin William Rotherham 9c 1201


Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
1HOUSEHOLD COTTERILL BENJAMIN WILLIAM M 1878 33 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD COTTERILL ERNEST M 1900 11 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD COTTERILL FLORENCE MARY F 1878 33 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD COTTERILL WILLIAM M 1902 9 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding

Rose

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Given Rosa's dob, this looks to be Harry:


Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
Cotterill Harry Cook Rotherham 9c 1322

Can't find a Cotterill/Cook marriage that fits though.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 24 May 2013 23:45

Perhaps this is it?

Marriages Dec 1900
Cooke Florence Rotherham 9c 1330
Cotterill William Rotherham 9c 1330

Rose

~flying doctor~

~flying doctor~ Report 25 May 2013 20:02

Rose Robert, lived in Tamworth before moving to Parkgate he married Emma who lived there her name was Cotterill before their marriage.I think that when Robert died that is when the so called step brothers of my grandfather were brought into the family. I wondered if my friends family of Cotterills who lived at Albert Road also {Parkgate} joined to help Emma.
My friend says that her ancestor was Thomas Cotterill born in Butterly park or Riddings near Ripley Derbyshire but of this I am not sure. In 1871 she says the family lived at 109 Albert Road Parkgate so it must have been Thomas as William was not born 'til 1878/9. can't find them but eye sight is not good so cannot ferret for long. Elaine.

~flying doctor~

~flying doctor~ Report 25 May 2013 21:54

Rose. Av done it, by a little lateral thinking. Robert Smith and Emma Cotterills daughter Emma married Edwin Cook1901 and this is where the tie is to my friends family.Will do more because their Name is Cotterill so must be on more than one front. If you want to look at my tree to help unscramble I will be willing to open it to you Rose. Elaine. :-D