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GR's new Baptism collection

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mgnv

mgnv Report 12 Jun 2013 00:22

MC - I had 2 aunts moved near the church, one to Goathland Ave just to E, and the other to Northumberland Ave, just to W. No marrs there, though - I had 5 aunts wed more into town - Byker/Heaton. I think one wed at St Silas Byker, abt 5km away, where my gran also wed.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/222110

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Jun 2013 22:27

The wine offer is one which can be had virtually anywhere..............it's just GR getting more advertising revenue.

I would think the 'new' records are all going to have to be paid for................and are already available on FMP, which is after all owned by the same group as GR

The majority of them can probably also be found on the FREE familysearch site

Gins

Gins Report 11 Jun 2013 20:43

Malcolm

I find it much easier to sub to a site!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Jun 2013 20:35

Good grief mgnv - I got married at St Bartholomews!! It was a little after 1833, though.

mgnv

mgnv Report 11 Jun 2013 20:32

Re RR's 1881: She can actually see a bit more than she posted, specifically she omitted:
Registration District KENSINGTON
Archive Reference RG11 Piece Number 22 Folio 20 Page 33

You used to be able to search by census ref on GR, but this seems to be gone now, so using FMP's
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/referenceSearch.action
gets me all the names on the page, then clicking on Thos gives the whole h/h:

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
CASSON, Henry Head Married M 51 1830 Barrister In Actual Practice
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
...
FISHLOCK, Thomas Servant Single M 22 1859 Footman Dom Serv
Orchest St Mary, Wiltshire VIEW

as does an FMP search for Thos by name - however neither of those give the location details, so not too satisfactory, but it is handy to be able to C & P the whole h/h for free..

FS gives: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3G1-VPS
This is better, but I still have to click on every name to get their marital status and occup, then C & P that in.

Ancestry allows one to see the whole h/h, but initially just the names & ages.
I can "View others on page" and see the h/h's pob & relationship, and hover over the "View Record" link to see marital status & occupation - I usually just type this in myself, but if it's a long occup, I'll click on him and C & P that. Still a fair bit of editting.

None of them are ideal - best is FreeCEN - but they've only got most of Cornwall and Caithness done in 1881.

mgnv

mgnv Report 11 Jun 2013 19:03

Re SinC's query: How do the Baptisms compare with those available for free on familysearch?

I think it's pretty hit or miss if the GR record's in FS's main series "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"

I searched up in "Northumberland and Durham Baptisms" for Elizabeth Thirlaway. Got 9 hits (incl 1 for Betty). FS gets just one of those hits (transcribed thrice) - there were no images here, just transcriptions.
The hit I got was for 24/2/1833 at St. Bartholomew Longbenton (FS doesn't name the church on any transcription). I know thee are (unindexed) Durham BT images on FS for Longbenton, but they only run 1762-1830 online.

I also tried one of FS's Welsh series:
Here's an Anglesey baptism on GR:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCK5-3DH
The transcription's on FS, but the image links to FMP - GR has an image too.

My guess is that TF's right in her response.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2013 18:30

yet the 1881 Census is view to see on other sites, even including ancestry!

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 11 Jun 2013 18:15

namelessone I am just a standard member, so don't know if there has been a change?

I can for eg see

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
First Name THOMAS
Last Name FISHLOCK
Birth Year 1859
Age 22
Birth Place
Birth Town ORCHEST ST MARY
Birth County WILTSHIRE
Relationship To Head of Household SERVANT
Gender M
Occupation FOOTMAN DOM SERV
Condition SINGLE
Street QUEENS GATE PLACE
Parish KENSINGTON

but to see other household members it would be 5 credits and to see the image 5 credits.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Jun 2013 18:10

Have things changed? I thought the 1881 census was free to view.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 11 Jun 2013 18:04

I found that I had 50 free credits, I've used 10 just on the offchance it was something I didn't have, it wasn't. A baptism on the Thames & medway costs 10 credits.

I was also fairly appalled yesterday that whilst a transcription of the 1881 is free, it costs 5 credits if you want to view other household members and that births ( 1884 was the one I looked at so on Freebmd) do not show the cert numbers. Not very helpful to new members who do not realise they need the cert numbers to order. IMO.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 Jun 2013 17:54


All new PR records of Banns Baptism etc,,

Pay per view------£5 -50 credits,lasts 30 days,
Pay per view -----£17-95 credits lasts for 90 days,

each record of above costs 5 credits,

Platiumn subcribers can have add -ons to their subs to view all new records,,,,,,
@ £6-67 per month taken as a full years payment,,,so upping Platiumn to £159+ per year.

or Platuimn can opt for 6 months add on.

or a standard member can pay perview as needed or opt to upgrade to Platiumn.....but all PR will come at at extra cost.


Its in FAQ if one delves,,,,,,,,nothing has really changed just new records added if anyone wants them.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 11 Jun 2013 17:51

"Take your search further by exploring our databases of historical records. Platinum subscription offers the same features as our Standard option, as well as unlimited access to:
All census records
All birth, marriage and death records
WW1 and WW2 death records
Platinum subscribers can also choose to add other niche record sets (such as Parish records) to their subscription."

so presumably that means buying credits, as the platinum sub does not include the 50 free ? So that's an extra £17.95 for 200 credits or £5 for 50.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2013 17:44

Kay???

your post is a non-sequitor ...... perhaps due to your misunderstanding of "extra"

We all know what Genes Extra is ................... a perk for UK-only subscribers, showing discrimination against all overseas subscribers.


I don't think anyone on this thread has mentioned Genes Extra in connection with the new Baptism or other collection

We are wondering if the bmd collections are extras that have to be paid for or whether they are included in the Platinum subscription.


The general consensus appears to be that a number of the new records are in fact "extras" in the sense that they are not included in the current cost of a Platinum subscription, and therefore credits have to be bought by all members in order to be able to see them.

and we are wondering how much those credits will cost.

jax

jax Report 11 Jun 2013 17:38

Then it looks to me that no one seems to know the answer, as finding out the prices of anything on this site is no different than it was before

jax

jax Report 11 Jun 2013 17:32

What has Genes extras got to do with this thread?

If you have a platinum subscription it does NOT cover everything that GR have to offer

I would like to know if these baptisms are included in the platinum sub or do you have to Pay extra

Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 Jun 2013 17:25


Genes Extras.have nothing to do with any updated records that are now avaliable on site.


they are GR all level members subscribers deals on,

Take out WDYTYA 6 issues for £6.

Take wine offer and save when you spend over £54 on selected wines,

Save 30% on books,

and also running is a competition to win a years supply of novels....

Only avaliable to UK subscribers.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 11 Jun 2013 08:51

NanaSue,

There are also Baptisms freely available on many OPC sites, so it's well worth checking before buying any credits.


For example, I see that you have listed the Medway area which interests me greatly.

However, I have been using the Medway City Ark site for years and have taken part of my family back to the 1600's thanks to them. I find it utterly fascinating to see actual copies of the various registers.

It is also free to use.

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/



Penny

Penny Report 11 Jun 2013 08:11

How much do these records cost?

GenealogyResearchAssistance

GenealogyResearchAssistance Report 11 Jun 2013 07:54

I suspect the records offered as an add on here are the same records available on a full subscription level at FMP. I'll stick with FMP

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2013 00:30

also ................


How do the Baptisms compare with those available for free on familysearch?