Genealogy Chat

Hi mgnv & MarieCeleste,

Many thanks for your brilliant detective work, it's very much appreciated. I've taken notes of everything you have found, Sarah Shomberg or Thornburg & Mary Yeo are the sisters of Bessie Baker re my other thread.

Thanks again girls, and I'm sending you both 'good luck' wishes in your own research.

Regards Lou <3

Re the 1900 - Name: Sarah Shomberg [Sarah Thornburg]

I can't completely make out the surname - just Sh*berg - check out Sybil Jones, daughter 14 lines later - there's a close match with the "S" and the "er" in both entries.

Suppose May Shomberg had married Mr Thornburg (and become May Shomberg Thornburg in a typical American naming pattern). An Ancestry member researching her Thornburg's could have renamed May as Thornburg, and either ticked or left ticked the box that applies this change throughout the h/h. [Just hypothesizing here - it used to be plausible, but I no longer have an Ancestry sub, so don't know how plausible it is now, but then neither do I know the date of "correction".]

Hi MarieCeleste and mgnv

So sorry not to have been in touch before to thank you for your fantastic help again, but not had the chance to log in until now.

Thanks so much for the marriages MarieCeleste. I'm still not sure which one is her's. Had hoped they would give me her father's name, or shed some light on why they would be classed as an orphan marriage when they are adults! But they might just help me further down the line.

MarieCelest that is my Shomberg's so the info relating to the name is very useful and could be the reason why I can't find them after 1900 census. So that's a huge help - Thanks

mgnv

Once again you've come up trumps. It has opened my eyes to finding more information plus images that I didn't realise you could do, so a big thank you to you too.

Thanks again to you both, and I'd like to wish you both success in your own research. Your help has been much appreciated.

Regards Lou :-) <3

1900 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MS1T-FJX (with image link)
1910 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MGCY-YXS

Magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1304unit#page/n904/mode/1up

Someone seems to think that your Shombergs were actually something else:

1900 United States Federal Census

Name: Sarah Shomberg [Sarah Thornburg]
Age: 33
Birth Date: Apr 1867
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Pittsburgh Ward 24, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1880 [1888]
Relation to Head of House: Sister in Law
Marital Status: Married
Marriage Year: 1886
Years Married: 14
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 5
Mother: How many children: 9
Occupation: View on Image

Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Yeo 26
Mary Yeo 25
Sarah Shomberg 33
Heary Shomberg 33 - Labourer in Iron Mill
John Shomberg 13
William Shomberg 11
May Shomberg 6
Edmond Shomberg 3
Harry Shomberg 5/12

This doesn't help either:

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Bessie Henry
Age in 1910: 24
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 33, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Elmer E Henry
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania

Household Members:
Name Age
Elmer E Henry 29
Bessie Henry 24

Although the husband's name is Irvan on her I think it may be the couple who married 1902 as it says 7 years married:

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Bessie B Merkle
Age in 1910: 24
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1910: Jamestown, Carbon, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Irvin B Merkle
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania

Household Members:
Name Age
Irvin B Merkle 25 - Locomotive Fireman
Bessie B Merkle 24
Arthur E Merkle 6
Lester L Merkle 4
Walter R Merkle 3

Doesn't really help does it?

1920 for Bessie LeVan:

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Bessie M Levan
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1920: Gettysburg Ward 1, Adams, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Alfred R Levan
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred R Levan 32 - Plumber b PA
Bessie M Levan 33
Roy A Levan 8

The last one:

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951

Name: Bessie M Baker
Gender: Female
Spouse: Alfred LeVan
Spouse Gender: Male
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1911
Marriage License Number:
262771
Digital GSU Number: 4140386

There's no forename on the Mills one

... but there is on the Merkle

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951

Name: Bessie A Baker
Gender: Female
Spouse: John Merkle
Spouse Gender: Male
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1902
Marriage License Number:
148510
Digital GSU Number: 4140386

Here's the Henry one:

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951

Name: Bessie Baker
Gender: Female
Spouse: Elmer E Henry
Spouse Gender: Male
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1907
Marriage License Number:
213933
Digital GSU Number: 4140386

Just found these possible marriage for Bessie On familysearch.

Orphans Court

Marriage LICENSE Index 1885 - 1916

Bessie Baker (Henry) 1907 F 148510
Bessie Baker (Mills) 1912 F 283227
Bessie Baker A (Merkle) 1902 F 148510
Bessie M Baker (LeVan) 1911 F 262771

I am assuming those names in brackets is the spouse. Does anyone know if these records are available on World Ancestry?

Thanks in advance Lou

Yes I think it is Jonesey, but I have no clue as to who she married. I've tried searching her other siblings to see if she's living with them, but so far have only found two. The Mary mentioned above and Sarah.

Sarah was on the 1900 Census and that's where I found Mary.

They are Sarah Shomberg b 1870 England
Heary Shomberg hubby b 1867 Penn and their children
John, William, May, Edmond and Harry b 1899 all Penn born.

Living with Mary Yeos and Charles Yeo

I cannot find the Shombergs family after 1900 either

Regards Lou

It does not look as if your Bessie is one of the 6 Bessie Baker options in the 1910 census. It is of course possible that she was married with a different surname by then.

Hi Jonesey,

That's Brilliant and has now proved he is the brother of Mary. I wondered what happened to him as both parents had passed away.

His sister is Bessie, she was born Aug 1886 and was just 17 when her father passed away in 1903. She is on the 1900 Census with father Cornelius Baker b 1850 England and brother Edward

Regards Lou

Several possibilities for Bessie Baker b1886, Pennsylvania. Do you know anything more about her?

Name: Charles Yeos
[Charles Yeos]
Age in 1910: 36
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1910: Pittsburgh Ward 16, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Yeos
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Yeos 36
Mary Yeos 35
Edward Bake 26

Both Charles and Edward are Labourers in a mill

Edward is a boarder, born in Pennsylvania with an English born father and a Welsh born mother.

Hi All, I was hoping that some kind soul whose a member of either site, could look up someone for me please. I've found there details on LDS site but I can't access the image because I'm not a member. It also states that the image is available of Ancestry.com

They are;

Charles Yeos b 1874 Pennsylvania head
Mary Yeos b 1875 Wales
Edward Bake b 1884 Pennsylvania
Living in Ward 16 Allegheny, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Household ID 426 Page 24

I want to know Charles' occupation, and all information relating to Edward. I am also looking for a Bessie Baker b 1886 Pennsylvania.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give me,

Regards Lou