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1841 census transcription details for: Edge, Malpas, Edge
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 89
Book/Folio: 21/5
Page: 4
Reg. District: Boughton, Great
Sub District: Tattenhall
Parish: Malpas
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Edge, Malpas, Edge
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
PROBBING, Thomas M 44 1797 Cheshire
PROBBING, Elizabeth F 43 1798 Cheshire
PROBBING, Ann F 10 1831 Cheshire
PROBBING, Martha F 8 1833 Cheshire
PROBBING, Fraces F 5 1836 Cheshire
PROBBING, Henery M 3 1838 Cheshire
PROBBING, Charles M 1 1840 Cheshire


1851 census transcription details for: Edge, Edge
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2171
Folio: 26
Page: 10
Reg. District: Great Boughton
Sub District: Tattenhall
Parish: Edge
Enum. District: 2 & 3
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Edge, Edge
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
PROBIN, Thomas Head Married M 54 1797 Ag Labourer
Duckington, Cheshire
PROBIN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 52 1799 Ag Labourer's Wife
Tilston, Cheshire
PROBIN, Charles Grand Son M 11 1840
Edge, Cheshire
PROBIN, Emma Grand Daughter F 7 1844
Edge, Cheshire



1861 census transcription details for: Hampton, Hampton
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 1891
Folio: 38
Page: 20
Reg. District: Whitchurch
Sub District: 2 Malpas
Parish: Hampton
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hampton, Hampton
County: Shropshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WESTON, John Head Married M 41 1820 Farmer 97 Acres Employing 3 Men And Boy
Stapley, Cheshire
WESTON, Esther Wife Married F 41 1820 Farmers Wife
Barton, Cheshire
WESTON, John Son M 9 1852 Scholar
Hampton, Cheshire
WESTON, Mary Kate Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Hampton, Cheshire
WESTON, Martha Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
Hampton, Cheshire
WESTON, James Son M 3 1858
Hampton, Cheshire
WESTON, Harriet Elizth Daughter F 1 1860
Hampton, Cheshire
WESTON, Enock Father Widower M 78 1783
..., Flintshire
CHESWORTH, Emma Servant Unmarried F 21 1840 Servant
Marbury, Cheshire
GIBBONS, Elizabeth Servant Unmarried F 18 1843 House Servant
Edge, Cheshire
>.PROBIN, Charles Servant Unmarried M 20 1841 Carter
Wembury, Cheshire
FAULKNER, John Servant Unmarried M 18 1843 Servant
Wembury, Cheshire


1871 census transcription details for: Edge, Edge
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 2798
Folio: 71
Page: 33
Reg. District: Whitchurch
Sub District: Malpas Cheshire
Parish: Edge
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Edge, Edge
County: Shropshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
PROBIN, Thos Head M 74 1797 Cheshire
PROBIN, Elizabeth Wife F 73 1798 Cheshire
PROBIN, Charles Son widr M 31 1840 Cheshire
PROBIN, Fanny Granddaughter F 8 1863 Cheshire
PROBIN, Annie Granddaughter F 6 1865 Cheshire



1881 census transcription details for: Chester Rd, Saighton
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3553
Folio: 45
Page: 5
Reg. District: Chester
Sub District: Tattenhall
Parish: Saighton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Chester Rd, Saighton
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
>.PROBIN, Charles Head Married M 41 1840 Farm Labourer
Edge Malpas, Cheshire
PROBIN, Emma Wife Married F 28 1853 Farm Labourer Wife
Broxton, Cheshire
>>PROBIN, Annie Daughter Single F 16 1865 Farm Labourer Daur
Tushingham, Cheshire
PROBIN, Jane Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Mollangton Chester, Cheshire
PROBIN, Thomas Son Single M 3 1878
Stone Bridge, Cheshire
PROBIN, John Son Single M 1 1880
Saighton, Cheshire



1891 census transcription details for: 4, Catheralls Buildings, Canal Side, Chester
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2861
Folio: 123
Page: 22
Reg. District: Chester
Sub District: Chester Castle
Parish: Chester
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough: Chester
Address: 4, Catheralls Buildings, Canal Side, Chester
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
PROBIN, Charles Head Married M 49 1842 Laborer
Edge Green, Cheshire
PROBIN, Emma Wife Married F 38 1853
Broxton, Cheshire
PROBIN, Thomas Son M 13 1878 Office Boy
Chester, Cheshire
PROBIN, John Son M 11 1880
Saighton, Cheshire
PROBIN, Henry Son M 9 1882
Chester, Cheshire
PROBIN, William Son M 4 1887
Chester, Cheshire

?? 1881 census transcription details for: Chester Rd, Saighton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 3553
Folio: 45
Page: 5
Reg. District: Chester
Sub District: Tattenhall
Parish: Saighton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Chester Rd, Saighton
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
PROBIN, Charles Head Married M 41 1840 Farm Labourer Edge Malpas, Cheshire
PROBIN, Emma Wife Married F 28 1853 Farm Labourer Wife Broxton, Cheshire
PROBIN, Annie Daughter Single F 16 1865 Farm Labourer DaurTushingham, Cheshire
PROBIN, Jane Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Mollangton Chester, Cheshire
PROBIN, Thomas Son Single M 3 1878 Stone Bridge, Cheshire
PROBIN, John Son Single M 1 1880 Saighton, Cheshire

Esther's death?

Parish Record Collection - Burial Record
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Forenames: Esther
Surname: Probin
Marital Status:
Burial Date: 28 Apr 1866
Burial Year: 1866
Age: 24y
Sex: Female
Burial Place: Tushingham-cum-Grindley
Date of Death:
Father's Forename:
Father's Surname:
Mother's Forenames:
Mother's Surname:
Residence: St. Chad, Tushingham-cum-Grindley
Spouse's Forenames:
Spouse's Surname:
Parish: St. Chad
City or Town: Tushingham-cum-Grindley
County: Cheshire

I could not see one at first look though.

Malpas and Whitchurch could be classed as the same area thogh.

As in 1871 Address: Ebnal, Malpas
PROBIN, William Head M 27 1844 Cheshire
PROBIN, Ann Wife F 25 1846 Denbighshire Piece: 2798 Folio: 24 Page: 38 Registration District: Whitchurch Civil Parish: Malpas Municipal Borough: Address: Ebnal, Malpas County: Shropshire

Note not your Annie but just to demonstrate.

Looks good Stuart.



Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Forenames: Charles
Surname: Probin
Sex: Male
Christening Year: 1839
Christening Date: 29 Dec 1839
Date of Birth:
Age:
Location: Malpas
Father's Forenames: Thomas
Father's Surname: Probin
Mother's Forename: Elizabeth
Mother's Surname:
Parish:
City or Town: Malpas
County: Cheshire



Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record
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Forenames: Charles
Surname: Probin
Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1862
Marriage Year: 1862
Age: 22y
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Ref ID: item 3 p 226
Spouse's Forenames: Esther
Spouse's Surname: Griffiths
Spouse's Age: 21y
Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Griffiths
Parish:
City / Town:
County: Cheshire


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Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Forenames: Ann
Surname: Probin
Sex: Female
Christening Year: 1864
Christening Date: 02 Oct 1864
Date of Birth:
Age:
Location: Tushingham-cum-Grindley
Father's Forenames: Charles
Father's Surname: Probin
Mother's Forename: Esther
Mother's Surname: Probin
Parish: St. Chad
City or Town: Tushingham-cum-Grindley
County: Cheshire



Tushingham was originally a township in Malpas ancient parish which obtained its separate civil parish status in 1866.


From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tushingham_cum_Grindley

I am still looking for info on Annie. THere are a few Probyns born Malpas but not Annie,

I am certain George married two different Mary's as birth year is given and only one George born 1849.

Next step would be to find a death for a Mary in between the 2 marriages.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about George Tushingham
Name: George Tushingham of The New Inn, Walter St
Probate Date: 13 Feb 1924
Death Date: 17 Jan 1924
Death Place: Cheshire, England
Registry: Cheshire, England


Administration to John Richardson Tushingham, licensed victualler. Effects £1901 9s 2d.

Could this explain the different places of birth for Annie. Here it says born Cheshire but by age 6 she is in the Whitchurch RD, Shropshire

EDIT - there is an Edge Green, Cheshire, very close to Malpas Cheshire but the RD could well be Whitchurch, Shropshire

1871 census transcription details for: Edge, Edge


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 2798
Folio: 71
Page: 33
Reg. District: Whitchurch
Sub District: Malpas Cheshire
Parish: Edge
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Edge, Edge
County: Shropshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
PROBIN, Thos Head M 74 1797 Cheshire
PROBIN, Elizabeth Wife F 73 1798 Cheshire
PROBIN, Charles Son M 31 1840 Cheshire
PROBIN, Fanny Granddaughter F 8 1863 Cheshire
PROBIN, Annie Granddaughter F 6 1865 Cheshire

All born Edge, Cheshire

They won't be the first couple who married many years after they were first together and they won't be the last.

The only way you will ever know is by getting the marriage certificate and seeing what information it contains.

It may or may not be them.

Looks like John 1869 was not with parents 1871

1871 Address: Christleton, Christleton
ATKIN, Joseph Head M 52 1819 Cheshire
ATKIN, Sarah Wife F 47 1824 Cheshire
ATKIN, Mary Daughter F 17 1854 Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, John Boarder M 2 1869 Cheshire
JONES, Louise Visitor F 24 1847 Cheshire

Thank you: Astra, LadyKira, and alviegal,

All that you have given to me is much appreciated.

Astra, I see your info, but LadyKira has a point about that date.

Unfortunately, most of what you have all given has been viewed by me already, and has not taken me much further down the line in the specific information I had sought and outlined in my question.

Horrace

1881 Address: 28, Walter St, Chester St Oswald
TUSHINGHAM, Geo Head Married M 56 1825 Licensed Victualler
Foulkestapleford, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Mary Wife Married F 34 1847
Overpool, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, John R Son Single M 12 1869
Christleton, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Saml Son Single M 4 1877
Chester, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Jos W Son Single M 1 1880
Chester, Cheshire

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

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Forenames: William Probyn
Surname: Tushingham
Sex: Male
Christening Year: 1893
Christening Date: 09 Mar 1893
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames: George
Father's Surname: Tushingham
Mother's Forename: Annie
Mother's Surname:
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Record Number: 193
Parish: Christ Church
City or Town: Chester
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms 1538-1910
Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Forenames: William Probyn
Surname: Tushingham
Sex: Male
Christening Year: 1893
Christening Date: 09 Mar 1893
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames: George
Father's Surname: Tushingham
Mother's Forename: Annie
Mother's Surname:
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Record Number: 193
Parish: Christ Church


Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Forenames: Nellie
Surname: Tushingham
Sex: Female
Christening Year: 1895
Christening Date: 23 Jan 1895
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames: George
Father's Surname: Tushingham
Mother's Forename: Annie
Mother's Surname:
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Record Number: 4
Parish: Christ Church


Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Forenames: Martha Annie
Surname: Tushingham
Sex: Female
Christening Year: 1897
Christening Date: 09 Jan 1897
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames: George
Father's Surname: Tushingham
Mother's Forename: Annie
Mother's Surname:
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Record Number: 278
Parish: Christ Church


Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Forenames: Beatrice
Surname: Tushingham
Sex: Female
Christening Year: 1899
Christening Date: 29 Mar 1899
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames: George
Father's Surname: Tushingham
Mother's Forename: Annie
Mother's Surname:
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Record Number: 96
Parish: Christ Church


Wonder if they said they had been married 19 years in 1911 to make these children 'respectable.' Perhaps that is why they married in Liverpool?

Could he have married 2 Mary's?

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

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Forenames: George
Surname: Tushingham
Marriage Date: 16 Jun 1874
Marriage Year: 1874
Age: 29y
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Ref ID: item 2 p 178
Spouse's Forenames: Mary
Spouse's Surname: Jackson
Spouse's Age: 26y
Spouse's Father's Name: William Jackson
Parish: St. John the Baptist
City / Town: Chester
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of Marriages c1538-1910
Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

George's marriage to Mary
Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

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Forenames: George
Surname: Tushingham
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1868
Marriage Year: 1868
Age: 23y
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Ref ID: item 4 p 17
Spouse's Forenames: Mary
Spouse's Surname: Richardson
Spouse's Age: 21y
Spouse's Father's Name: John Richardson
Parish: St. John the Baptist
City / Town: Chester
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of Marriages c1538-1910
Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

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Forenames: George
Surname: Tushingham
Sex: Male
Christening Year: 1845
Christening Date: 27 Jul 1845
Date of Birth:
Age:
Location: Tarvin
Father's Forenames: Samuel
Father's Surname: Tushingham
Mother's Forename: Martha
Mother's Surname: Tushingham
Parish:
City or Town: Tarvin
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms
Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

1871 Address: Christleton, Christleton
ATKIN, John Head M 21 1850 Cheshire
ATKIN, Sarah Wife F 27 1844 Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, George ? M 26 1845 Cheshire

1861 Address: Cottage, Foulk Stapleford
TUSHINGHAM, Samuel Head Married M 43 1818 Coal Caster
Tattenhall, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Martha Wife Married F 38 1823
Duddon, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, George Son Unmarried M 15 1846
Foulk Stapleford, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Mary Daughter F 13 1848 Scholar
Foulk Stapleford, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Ann Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar
Foulk Stapleford, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, John Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Foulk Stapleford, Cheshire

1891 Address: 28, New Inn, Walter Street, Chester
TUSHINGHAM, George Head Widower M 45 1846 Publican
Foulk Stapleford, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Samuel Son M 15 1876
Chester, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Charles Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Chester, Cheshire
TUSHINGHAM, Alice Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Chester, Cheshire
ATKIN, Sarah Niece Single F 16 1875 General Servant Domestic
Christleton, Cheshire