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Annie 'Tushingham' born around 1867/8 A mystery!

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greyghost Report 1 Jul 2013 11:36

As given to you by Astra page 1 where she has marked the "pair" (or even in the form shown in previous post).

Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
Jones Edmund Crowdson Liverpool 8b 111
>>PROBYN Annie Liverpool 8b 111
Thoms Mary Liverpool 8b 111
>>Tushingham George Liverpool 8b 111

This is the 4 people who married on this reference number. It doesn't necessarily mean that Jones married Probyn because they were listed first and second or Thoms married Tushingham because they were listed third and fourth.
In Lancashire you are lucky with Lancs BMD and Lancs OPC, such a lot has been transcribed and the pairings are shown. Another way to check can be to look at the following census and as long as you don't have 2 John Smiths and 2 Susan's listed you should hopefully be able to find the pairs. It doesn't always work, but can be very helpful.


LadyKira Report 1 Jul 2013 21:16

I had to rush off to work this morning but can now post about Edmund Crowdson Jones.
If you are not sure about who married who do some reearch on the other party as Stuart said.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Edmund Croudson Jones
Name: Edmund Croudson Jones
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1851
Registration District: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 1086

Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Edmund Croudson Jones
Name: Edmund Croudson Jones
Birth Date: 31 Oct 1851
Baptism Date: 5 Sep 1854
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: John Jones
Mother's Name: Jane Jones
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/42

1911 England Census about Edmund Rosedson Jones
Name: Edmund Rosedson Jones
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Edge Lane Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Builder
Registration District: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration District: West Derby Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Piece: 22586
Household Members:
Name Age
John Watts 47
Elizabeth Watts 45
Edward Athya Watts 21
Gladys Lilian Watts 19
Elsie May Watts 18
Margaret Josephine Watts 16
Mary Rosedson Jones 62 <<<< mistranscribed
Edmund Rosedson Jones 60 <<<, "
Amanda Smith 16


LadyKira Report 1 Jul 2013 21:33

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 about Edmund C Jones
Name: Edmund C Jones
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Birth Place: Liverpool, England
Age: 70
Date of Arrival: May 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Albania

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Edmund Crowdson Jones
Name: Edmund Crowdson Jones
Death Date: 8 Sep 1924
Death County or District: Carleton
Age: 72
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Birth Location: England

Ottawa, Canada, Beechwood Cemetery Registers, 1873-1990 about Edmund Crewdson Jones
Name: Edmund Crewdson Jones
Birth Date: abt 1852
Birth Location: England
Gender: Male
Death Date: 8 Sep 1924
Age: 72
Parent(s): John and Jane Jones
14 Spedina Avenue

1911 Address: 4 Edge Lane Liverpool
WATTS, John Head Married M 47 1864 Commercial Traveller Northampton Wellingboro
WATTS, Elizabeth Wife Married22 years F 45 1866 Lancs Liverpool
WATTS, Edward Athya Son Single M 21 1890 Manager Lancs Liverpool
WATTS, Gwladys Lilian Daughter Single F 19 1892 Lancs Liverpool
WATTS, Elsie May Daughter Single F 18 1893 Lancs Liverpool
WATTS, Margaret Josephine Daughter Single F 16 1895 Lancs Liverpool
JONES, Mary Rondson Visitor Married F 62 1849 Flint Moslyn
JONES, Edward Rondson Visitor Married M 60 1851 Builder Lancs Liverpool
SMITH, Amanda Servant Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Lancs Liverpool


Horrace Report 17 Jul 2013 18:10

A belated thank you to LadyKira and Stuart for their latest contributions.

Sorry for the delay...been on holiday for over a week! :-)


Horrace Report 18 Jul 2013 18:13

Hi Stuart and LadyKira,

I eventually found the marriage of George Tushingham to Annie Probyn in the Lancashire BMD. Dated 1902. Liverpool, St Michael. Ref 2054LP/11/133.

I am so sorry I didn't tell you before all the hard work put in by both of you, as we were going on holiday the next day and busy getting things together.

Annie, however, had misrepresented her status in the 1901 census before they married, as already being George's wife. (In Common law, maybe!)

I have no idea why I didn't try the Lancashire BMD earlier!

Apologies again!