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Finding the paternal side of my family tree

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LadyAugusta

LadyAugusta Report 30 Aug 2013 17:16

Just to tidy up what Kathleen Bell has put;

John D Roberts birth was registered Q4 1964, M 66: Birmingham.

Raymond D Roberts birth was registered Q4 1965, M 66: Birmingham.

Both were updated Q1 1966, 9c Page 202 thus making it look like twins, but they are not. As Richard and Ann did not marry untill the same Q of 1966 it is most likely that the fathers name was added to the birth certificates.

LA






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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 30 Aug 2013 15:10

Francesca - that's why we are suggesting that you purchase your grandparents marriage certificate!

The certificate will give
The declared ages of the bride and groom
Where they were living and their occupation
Their fathers' names (if known) and occupation
The witnesses might turn out to be relatives.

There are loads of clues on a MC if there is no where else to start!

Francesca

Francesca Report 30 Aug 2013 14:05

Thank you for all of your help. I am struggling to find any information about my paternal grandparents: Richard David Roberts born 1942 (i think) and Ann D. Simkins. Other than the information stated I am lost :/

Any advice?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Aug 2013 22:40

Just in case Francesca doesn't know where to purchase B, M or D certificates -

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

They will cost £9.25 inc P&P.

The registry office where the event was registered also sell them, but the references you find on the gro index won't be of any use.

Do not use any other source as it will cost you more.

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Aug 2013 21:32

If you go to freebmd, you can find the birth registration yourself..........which suggests a twin........

Make freebmd your 'friend'..............

BTW.....unless you know your father's actual DOB, you won't be able to order a copy of his birth cert, but you don't need it as you already know who his parents were

Buy their marriage cert.........

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Aug 2013 21:15

GRO reference for the marriage certificate of his parents:-

Name: ROBERTS, Richard D
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1966
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Simkins
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 1006

Name: SIMKINS, Ann D
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1966
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Roberts
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 1006

and his birth certificate:-


Name: ROBERTS, Raymond David
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1966
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Simkins
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 202

It does look from the index that there might be a twin brother called John David Roberts but only the birth certificates would confirm or refute this.

Kath. x

patchem

patchem Report 24 Aug 2013 13:53

francesca,

You can apply to buy the marriage and birth certificates, which will give you further information.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Francesca

Francesca Report 24 Aug 2013 13:49

He didn't have a twin brother as far as I am aware.
Yes his parents were Richard David Roberts and Ann D Simkins, no other information though I'm afraid.

Thank you for all your help.

Astra

Astra Report 24 Aug 2013 12:38

Hi again Francesca

Were his parents Richard and Ann?

Penny

Penny Report 24 Aug 2013 12:38

Did he have a twin brother, as well as other siblings?

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 Aug 2013 12:36

As you know the names of his parents............look for their marriage

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

The cert will tell you their ages..........and the names of their fathers

Your first post implied that you didn't know their names...............

Francesca

Francesca Report 24 Aug 2013 12:17

Hi.

Thanks for the information. I literally have no access to birth certificates etc, although I do know his parents names.

KathleenBell; yes my parents were married and they are divorced. I assume my father is still alive, I am unsure as I do not know him.

His name is Raymond David Roberts, born 1966 and born in birmingham.

thank you. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 23 Aug 2013 17:18

Welcome to the boards Francesca.

His birth certificate will give you his parent's names and then you can look for their marriage.

Were your parents married? Is your father still alive? Please don't give exact date of birth of anyone who is still alive. You can give his name and year and place of birth and someone should be able to find the reference to enable you to buy his birth certificate.

Kath. x

Astra

Astra Report 23 Aug 2013 17:05

Hi
Why don't you post what you know on here Francesca.
There is always someone to help you get started.

Francesca

Francesca Report 23 Aug 2013 16:22

I have little information on my father's side of the family, apart from his name, place of birth and year of birth and his brothers and sisters names. I have no other information and am struggling to find any information on him. What do I do?