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Confused by getting married twice on same day

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Florence61

Florence61 Report 15 Mar 2014 09:53

Does anyone know it the rules re the reading of banns differs in scotland? When i got married, my c of e church in kent read out the banns 3 sundays in a row. OH came down from scotland and we attended the last calling the week before.

My minister asked and are the banns being read in you oh's church? When I asked my prospective FIL(who was an elder) he said, "no we dont do that up here, but a notice will be displayed outside the town hall"

When I told my minister this, he said that they had to read the banns out in church, but actually they didnt and dont up here! Also my oh signed our marriage cert in his Gaelic name not his actual name as it is on his birth cert. Didnt realise this for ages after. Does this make the cert illegal or worse still is our marriage legal!!!!! Help please.

Florence
in the hebrides :-S

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 15 Mar 2014 18:15

Do you want to be married to him Florence? :-D :-D

If it's worrying you, it might be best to follow the 'contact us' links on this URL

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/regscot/getting-married-in-scotland/index.html

Florence61

Florence61 Report 15 Mar 2014 19:52

Thanks DetEcTive but we got married in England! yes i do strangely want to stay married after all we have been(technically) for 20 years, it's just after reading this thread I started thinking!

I mean, I did everything legally but maybe he didn't ie re the banns but his name that is a different matter.Think I will need to make a few enquiries to set my mind at rest.
Worst case sonnario is that we would have to get married all over again eeek!!!!

Florence
in the hebrides :-0 ;-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 15 Mar 2014 22:49

Sorry - I'd assumed you'd married in Scotland.

Another member has recently enquired because his surname is incorrectly recorded on the gro index. We weren't too sure if it is also misspelt on the MC.
He was advised to read the following and take the necessary action

https://www.gov.uk/correct-marriage-registration.

Thinking aloud, it might be possible for the original entry for yours, and the subsequent Register office entries, to be amended to give OH's 'also known as' name.

As notices for Register Office marriages are displayed 2 weeks in advance, there might be the argument that although you might not be married according to the Rites of your Church, you are legally. If you think about it, 3 successive Sundays of Banns = 2 calendar weeks = Register office notices.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Mar 2014 17:16

I should think that, if you OH is known by his Gaelic name then that would be considered acceptable. After all, how often have we seen an Elizabeth signing the register as Lizzie or a Janet known as Jessie or a Helen known as Ellen signing with the name that they were known by in everyday life?

mgnv

mgnv Report 16 Mar 2014 18:15

The idea that you're wed to the Gaelic-named guy, but not the English- named guy definitely seems schizophrenic to me. Of course, the marriage could still be in question if you're not of sound mind.

One is required to register a birth, not name the child. The name has no real connection to the b.cert.

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
Smith Male Burton 6b 387

In 1901 there were over 15000 births rego'ed as Male - so was Male Smith the "real" name of the guy in my above example. I know an English b.cert had a col 10 where one could subsequently (up to a year) add/alter a forename on production of a baptismal cert or affidavit, but there's no such provision on a Scottish b.cert.

Florence61

Florence61 Report 16 Mar 2014 23:15

The name in question is one of those names that in English is a name in it's own right and can be spelt 3 or 4 different ways as 4 different names. here his name in gaelic represents all those other names. For example if in gaelic your name is Catriona, this is translated as Catherine. in English, there are variants and different spellings of catherine but each differnt spelling is a name in it's own right.

So my Oh could yes be also known as but when i encoutered a problem with the inland revenue recently they insisted there were two people with different names. I had a terrible job explaining, he was known as his gaelic name and when he started work thats the name the tax people got.

It was only looking at this thread i looked up our marriage and realised what exactly was registered. Unfortunately when we met he told me his name was ***** and so when we married that was fine til our son was born. We gave him a name that turned out be the same as my OH.

This has caused a few problems with health records etc but moreso with legal things and the electoral role.

I suppose at the end of the day it doesn't really matter but his name on his birth cert doesnt match our marriage cert and if we had to produce our marriage cert for something his name might cause some problem.

I have had to change every record because he was registered incorrectly up here yet his family didnt think it mattered!

people signing cheques in their native gaelic name had to be stopped as they couldnt verify their signatures as the accounts were opened in their English names, caused a huge headache.

Sorry Romany Star i seemed to have hijacked this thread a bit and that wasnt quite my intention .

Thanks for all you helpful suggestions
Florence
in the hebrides :-)