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Linking Morgan families in two census

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friendlywelshdragon Report 17 Mar 2014 16:49

.Trying to find out if there is a link between the Morgan families on these two census. Looking for a link between Jane Morgan who married Edward Thomas in Saint Brides Major and Thomas Morgan aged 16 in Llanwnog Newtown Montgomery . Could she be an Aunt ? I thought her parents might be the parents of Thomas's Father (her mothers age is older on the wedding record .She would have been 18 not 16) but I see they have a son named Thomas in Saint Brides Major .So I doubt that they would have had two with the same name . I see that sons William and Thomas are 26 and 27 in 1871 16 and 17 in1861,but in 1851 they are listed as 7 year old twins . They are the same people as the address is the same ? Is there a connection in the families or are they two different families

EDIT . I have posted the Transcripts now.


Reggie Report 17 Mar 2014 17:05

The only way to prove (or not) any link is to do some careful research.

If you want help, post the census transcriptions - so that details can be seen on here.

.......and say which year(s) they are for.................

Buy a copy of the marriage cert, to find out Jane's father's details (if she knew them)


friendlywelshdragon Report 17 Mar 2014 17:47

The Transripts are not always correct with Welsh place names . I have put in the towns as Find My past transcript didn't have them . MORGAN, Thomas Head M 44 1827 Montgomeryshire (Llanwrnog)
MORGAN, Sarah Wife F 45 1826 Montgomeryshire (Llandinam)
MORGAN, Thomas Son M 16 1855 Montgomeryshire (Newtown)
MORGAN, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1857 Montgomeryshire(Newtown)
MORGAN, Jane Daughter F 11 1860 Montgomeryshire (Llandinam)
MORGAN, Edward Son M 9 1862 Montgomeryshire (Llandinam)
MORGAN, John Son M 5 1866 Montgomeryshire (Llandinam)
MORGAN, Elizabeth Mother F 87 1784 Montgomeryshire (Llanidloes)

Piece: 5612

Folio: 48

Page: 9

Registration District: Newtown

Civil Parish: Llanwnog

Municipal Borough:

Address: Corner Shop, Llanwnog

County: Montgomeryshire

1871 census
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Person: THOMAS, Charlotte

Address: Pitcott Road Penuchardree, St Brides Major


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Birth Year


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THOMAS, Jane Daughter F 22 1849 Glamorgan
THOMAS, Edward Son-In-Law M 27 1844 Glamorgan
THOMAS, Charlotte Granddaughter F 0 1871 Glamorgan
UPPINGTON, Mary Servant F 21 1850 Somerset
JENKINS, Mary A Servant F 13 1858 Glamorgan
MORGAN, Thomas Head M 63 1808 Glamorgan (Peterstone)
MORGAN, Martha Wife F 60 1811 Glamorgan (Pyle)
MORGAN, William Son M 27 1844 Glamorgan (Saint Bride's Major)
MORGAN, Thomas Son M 26 1845 Glamorgan
MORGAN, Edward Son M 18 1853 Glamorgan

Piece: 5419

Folio: 19

Page: 8

Registration District: Bridgend

Civil Parish: St Brides Major

Municipal Borough:

Address: Pitcott Road Penuchardree, St Brides Major

County: Glamorganshire


friendlywelshdragon Report 17 Mar 2014 18:19

Jane's parents were Thomas Morgan (another one) Born 1808 ,and Martha ( nee Williams ) 1808 on wedding transcript and 1881 census but 1811 on 1871 census



Groom Forenames:THOMAS

Groom Surname:MORGAN

Groom's parish:ST BRIDE MAJ

Place:St Bride's Major



Notes:after banns, personal detail in the register

Bride Forename:MARTHA

Bride Surname:WILLIAMS

Bride's parish:ST BRIDE MAJ

Record source:Glamorgan Marriage Index pre-1837


Reggie Report 17 Mar 2014 22:49

Have you done any research to try to prove your suppositions?


friendlywelshdragon Report 18 Mar 2014 10:20

I have traced the families through the census and found a branch of a Morgan family tree on a Powys Family History site Thomas Morgan from Montgomery married Alice Stubbs in 1879 and I traced the baptism of two of their children to Llandyfodwg
Both on Jan 3rd 1883 John Stubbs Morgan and Sarah Jane Morgan . Llandyfodwg is near Bridgend . The family emigrated to Australia in 1883. Also I know the names are very common ,but the two families are so similar I thought there may be a link.