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I am interested in Richard Mears birth about 1804, whose daughter Martha married William Tunnel in 1843 at Hellingly. Or any information related to the above.

John Deacon

Hello John, Welcome to the boards.

It helps to know where places are - most of us will not have heard of Hellingly - so is this the right one?

Hellingly - Village in England
Hellingly is a village and civil parish in the Wealden District of East Sussex, England. Wikipedia

Probably, as Martha and Williams marriage shows in Sussex

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%)
Bennett Bathsheba Hailsham 7 575
Goldsmith Mary Hailsham 7 575
Hall Emma Hailsham 7 575
Hunneysett Stephen Hailsham 7 575
LADE Luke Hailsham 7 575
Mears Martha Hailsham 7 575
TUNNELL William Hailsham 7 575
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England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) William
Last name Tunnel
Name note -
Marriage year 1843
Marriage date 06 Nov 1843
Marriage place Hellingly
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Tunnell
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Mears
Spouse's father's first name(s) Richard
Spouse's father's last name Mears
County Sussex
Country England

So hopefully Richard and family were in that area too?

Haven't found the family in an earlier census yet, but if this is Martha and William then it says she was born Whitechapel, Middlesex.. William is a Broom Maker

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Croboro, Withyham, East Grinstead, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Tunnell Head - Male 64 1807 - Surrey, England b Agham
Martha Tunnell Wife - Female 50 1821 - Middlesex, England b Whitechapel
Richard Tunnell Son - Male 23 1848 - Kent, England b Hawkhurst
Samuel Tunnell Son - Male 21 1850 - Kent, England b Ashhurst
Mary Tunnell Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Sussex, England b Uckfield

Is Martha a little bit older than the 1871 census says??

If so, then her Father was not born c 1804 !

Martha Mears
England Births and Christenings
Name Martha Mears
Gender Female
Christening Date 01 Nov 1818
Christening Place ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 14 Nov 1814
Father's Name Richard Mears
Mother's Name Elizabeth
CITING THIS RECORD

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J993-W4F : accessed 3 February 2016), Martha Mears, 01 Nov 1818; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 94,695.

This would put Martha in the right county for the 1843 marriage and the address is similar to the 1871 census. Crowborough and Hellingly are about 15 miles apart

Relationships aren't shown on the 1841 census - if she is married to William Mears, then did a Mears marry a Mears if the 1843 marriage to Wm Tunnel details say her Father is Richard Mears?
William is down as a Hawker.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Crowborough, Withyham, Grinstead, East, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Mears Male 30 1811 -
Martha Mears Female 25 1816 -
Susanna Mears Female 7 1834 Sussex, England
Rebecca Mears Female 3 1838 -
Ellen Mears Female 1 1840 Sussex, England

Sorry, got to go out

John you have a response on your previous thread from Romany Star who might be connected to your family

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1357514?d=desc&page=0

and there is also a response from me with info,

It is generally not a good idea to post more than one thread on the same family ( even if it is a different generation) as it means as here people are duplicating searches that have already been done. :-)

You can return to your original threads at any time by clicking on "My Threads" under "Tools" at left of screen .

Eleanor Mears was also baptised at the same time as her sister Martha

As many of us are getting 'error' messages when we try to access 'my threads', it might be best to tick the 'watch this' at the top of the page. Not only are those easy to get at, you are sent emails sometime after additional posts have been made.

Well Rose yes you are right we are gypsy's.

Is there a relationship between William born 1804 and Richard born 1811 and not 1804 as I mistakenly wrote. Haven't had time to study your article yet as I have only Just discovered. Kept in touch if anything new come up. I recently made contact with Paul Roberts in Welsh UK who is part of the Deacon Bacon/Gilbert side,

Mears/Deacon

Sorry for the confusion, I should have stated that Richard Mears born 1811
married Martha in 1843 at Hellingly Sussex England

Moving this here from the other thread,

Richard Mears
mentioned in the record of Richard Mears and Elizabeth Smith
Name Richard Mears
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Smith
Event Date 02 Jan 1814
Event Place Whitechapel, Middlesex, England


Possible for either father or perhaps grandfather but is the right area


First name(s) Richard
Last name Mears
Age at death 74
Birth year 1759
Burial year 1833
Burial date 07 Aug 1833
Parish St Mary, Whitechapel
Address Workhouse
City London
County Middlesex
Source City of London Burials 1754-1855
Record set Greater London Burial Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Probable sibling for Martha?

Isaac Mears
England Births and Christenings
Name Isaac Mears
Gender Male
Christening Date 06 May 1821
Christening Place ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name Richard Mears
Mother's Name Elizabeth



Martha Mears
England Births and Christenings
Name Martha Mears
Gender Female
Christening Date 01 Nov 1818
Christening Place ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 14 Nov 1814
Father's Name Richard Mears
Mother's Name Elizabeth