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I accidently came across a web site called Family relatives.com which allows you to search but you must subscribe to get full access to the information. I saw under the title of Marine Deaths a possible death for a great grandfather who seems to disappear after the 1891 census and is definitely deceased by 1898 when his widow remarries. The information available is John Medcalf aged 46 and born 1845 and it is a Marine Death. So I take it that this person died in 1891. The man I'm looking for would actually have been 48 or 49 but maybe the informant was mistaken. Does anyone know where I could access the information for less than the £14.95 that the site is asking for a months subscription. I already have subs to Ancestry. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

GRO MARINE DEATHS INDICES (1846 to 1902) Transcription

First name(s) JOHN
Last name MEDCALF
Gender Male
Age 46
Birth year 1845
Death year 1891
Vessel HOMER
Year range 1891
Page 157
Record source GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902)
Record set British nationals died overseas 1818-2005

Doddsy, where was your John born?

The death is for this man, born Lincoln:

England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913 Transcription

First name(s) John
Last name Medcalf
Birth year 1845
Birth place Lincoln
Birth country England
Year 1891
Role Fireman & Trimmer
Vessel name Homer
From date 09 Jun 1891
To date 15 Aug 1891
Previous vessel Same
Vessel official number 82841
Vessel registration port London
Port registry year 1881
Port registry number 8
Vessel type Steam
Gross tonnage 1383
Net tonnage 892
Log book N
Master's first name(s) George Larkman
Master's last name Moy
Owner's last name Dick & Page
Owner's address 2 St Michaels House
Record source The National Archives

Wow ! How fast was that ? Thank you so much. Can I ask if there's any way of finding which quarter of the year that he died as I'm almost sure that he is living with a woman in Wales in the first quarter of 1891 and any idea where I would send to for a copy of his death certificate. Thank

Awwwww ! Austin.....you absolute diamond....Two of us have been looking for John for 8 years. Yes he was born in Lincoln and yes, he was a Fireman on board ship. You are a star ! Thank you so, so much.x

No problem- you did the work in finding him. Should have added for reference, the transcription is on Find my Past.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/730857

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1103802

(did you get any further from above?)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(above free link has a lot of Lincs., if anything to relate)


1871 (Find My Past) (reference)
John Metcalf Head - Male 56 1815 - Lincolnshire, England
Ann Bignall Lodger - Female 33 1838 - Northamptonshire, England
Ann M Bignall Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Lincolnshire, England
Charles M Bignall Son - Male 1 1870 - Lincolnshire, England
Street High Street Gadsbys Passage
Parish St Botolph
City Lincoln
County Lincolnshire
Registration district Lincoln
Archive reference
RG10
Piece number 3370
Folio 7
Page 7


(if anything below!)

1881 (Find My Past)
Benjamin Leeman Head Married Male 40 1841 Master Drayman Haltham, Lincolnshire, England
Ann Leeman Wife Married Female 41 1840 Domestic Serv Partney, Lincolnshire, England
Susan Leeman Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Domestic Serv Lincolnshire, England
Joseph Leeman Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
Robert Matthews Lodger Single Male 30 1851 Millers Drayman Lincolnshire, England
John Metcalf Lodger Single Male 39 1842 Railway Labourer Partney, Lincolnshire,
House number 74
Street Newland
Parish Lincoln St Martin
County Lincolnshire
Registration district Lincoln
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 3244
Folio 69
Page 27

Thanks Chris, the first record is John's father and the second record is his cousin..also called John and also born in Partney, in 1842 !! Lol

Get his death cert from the GRO indicating it's an overseas death and using the ref posted