Genealogy Chat

Thanks for all your help Deb, thats great! Thats just the info I needed. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Thanks again, Carolyn.

JACKY been trying now for a couple of hours but nothing obvious im afraid,,,,,, maybe if you get williams birth cert that will give you his mothers name regards debs

JACKY have you got williams birth/marriage cert?? how do you know his father was a police constable? do you know his parents names? did william have any siblings? if so any of their names please any other info however small jacky would help as the 3 i have found,, 2 are nephews to the head of household, and the other 1 is on vessels please let me know and i will have another look for you ok regards debs

thanks debs funny how the names changes from millins to millings after this period much appreciated paul

PAUL 1871 Registration district: Boston Sub-registration district: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 53 Household Members: Eliza Millins 8 DAU bn Boston, Lincolnshire George Millins 50 HD CORN PORTER bn Boston, Lincolnshire George Millins 13 SON bn Boston, Lincolnshire JOHN MILLINS 6 SON bn Boston, Lincolnshire Mary Ann Millins 39 WI bn Louth, Lincolnshire, Mary Ann Millins 4 DAU bn Boston, Lincolnshire Robert Millins 1 SON bn Boston, Lincolnshire address marriners row ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, regards debs 1861

TRACEY 1881 Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Barnsley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 : Ann Pine 37 WI bn Conisbro N Doncaster, Yorkshire, Annie E. Pine 18 DAU CAPEN? MILL HAND bn Conisbro N Doncaster, Yorkshire Beatrice E. Pine 3 DAU bn Barnsley, Yorkshire, Clara A. Pine 12 DAU bn Barnsley, Yorkshire, Ernest Pine 9MTHS SON bn Barnsley, Yorkshire, Florence Pine 8 DAU bn Barnsley, Yorkshire, John Pine 41 HD BLACKSMITH bn Devon, England John W.F. Pine 1 SON bn Barnsley, Yorkshire, KEZIAH PINE 10 DAU bn Barnsley, Yorkshire Mary H. Pine 16 DAU CAPEN?? MILL HAND bn Conisbro N Doncaster, Yorkshire Milicent Pine 5 DAU bn Barnsley, Yorkshire, address 8 bridge st ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1871 Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Barnsley ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Household schedule number: 116 Household Members: Ann Pine 27 WI bn Canesbro, Yorkshire, Annie E Pine 8 DAU bn Canesbro, Yorkshire, Cloma /CLARA Ann Pine 2 DAU bn Smithies, Yorkshire John Pine 31 HD BLACKSMITH bn Callopton, Derbyshire Keyuy/KEZIA Pine 9 months DAU bn Smithies, Yorkshire Mary H Pine 6 DAU bn Barnsly, Yorkshire address smithy lill ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, REGARDS DEBS

CATHERINE 1901 HANNAH WITH HER MOTHER Registration district: St Ives Sub-registration district: St Ives ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 132 Household Members: Alfred Golding 16 SON GRAIN AND MEAL MERCHANTS CLERK bn St Ives, Huntingdonshire, Arthur Golding 27 SON CARPENTER bn Manchester, Lancashire Hannah Golding 56 WI bn St Ives, Huntingdonshire, John J Golding 50 HD GRAIN AND MEAL MERCHANT AND CORN SECRETARY TO OLD FELLOWS CLUB?? bn Wisbech, Cambridgeshire Mabel Golding 18 DAU Manchester, Lancashire, Hannah Thompson 82 WID MOTHER-IN-LAW bn March, Cambridgeshire address carlisle terrace ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1891 HANNAHS PARENTS Registration district: St Ives Sub-registration district: St Ives ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household Members: Hannah Coulson 25 GEN SERVANT bn Feustawton, Huntingdonshire, Hannah Thompson 69 WI bn Wisbech St Mary, Cambridgeshire William Thompson 77 HD INNKEEPER bn Walsall, Staffordshire, address pavement cross keys ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1881 HANNAH AND JOHN GOLDINGS SON Registration district: St Ives Sub-registration district: St Ives ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household Members: Rachel Cooper 20 DOM SERVANT WILLIAM GOLDING 11 GRANDSON Thomas Smith 19 LODGER Hannah Thompson 61 WI bn Wesbeach, Cambridgeshire, William Thompson 67 HD INNKEEPER bn Walsall, Suffolk Benjamin Turner 18 SERVANT FARM SERVANT address: Pavement (Cross Keys) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1871 HANNAHS PARENTS Registration district: St Ives Sub-registration district: St Ives ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 15 Household Members: Richard Beldham 41 BOARDER MAR CATTLE DEALER Elizah Berhop 35 BOARDER UNMAR CATTLE DEALER David Broom 36 BOARDER UNMAR CATTLE DEALER John Few 50 BOARDER UNMAR DROVER Alfred Gebson 19 Moden Hammond 46 BOARDER MAR DROVER Henry Johnson 46 BOARDER UNMAR DROVER Emma MacQuire 19 GEN SERVANT John Singwood 31 BOARDER UNMAR SHEEP DEALER Hannah Thompson 51 WI INNKEEPERS WIFE William Thompson 57 HD INNKEEPER address pavement cross keys ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1871 HANNAH AND JOHN GOLDING Registration district: St Ives Sub-registration district: St Ives ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Catherine Allpress 15 DOM SERVANT bn Houghton, Huntingdonshire, Annie Golding 5 DAU bn Fen Stanton, Huntingdonshire Hannah Golding 26 WI bn St Ives, Huntingdonshire John Golding 29 HD MECHANICS CLERK bn Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, John Frederick Thompson Golding 4 SON bn Fen Stanton, Huntingdonshire William Golding 1 SON bn Fen Stanton, Huntingdonshire address bullock man ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, MARRIAGE John Joseph Goulding 1864 Jul-Aug-Sep St Ives Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire AND Hannah Thompson 1864 Jul-Aug-Sep St Ives ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1861 HANNAHS PARENTS Registration district: St Ives Sub-registration district: St Ives ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Annie M Thompson 16 DAU ASSISTANT bn St Ives, Huntingdonshire Hannah Thompson 41 WI bn Wesbeach, Cambridgeshire, William Thompson 47 HD CARRIER LAB? bn Walsall, Suffolk, address sheep market ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1851 HANNAHS PARENTS Registration district: St Ives Sub-registration district: Warboys ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Anna M Thompson 6 DAU Hannah Thompson 31 WI William Thompson 37 HD LOCKSMITH address mag??? alley ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hope this helps regards debs

CAROLYN 1901 MABEL WITH HER MOTHER Registration district: Bedwellty Sub-registration district: Aberystruth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 89 Household Members: Lucy Herbert 18 DAU LAB AT COAL WASHER ABOVE bn Treharris, Glamorgan MABEL HERBERT 8 DAU bn Abertillery, Monmouthshire, Sarah Herbert 42 HD WID CHARWOMAN bn N, Staffordshire, Sarah Herbert 10 DAU bn Abertillery, Monmouthshire Thomas Thomas 34 BOARDER bn Swansea, Glamorgan address 32 garn?? rd ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1891 MABELS PARENTS Registration district: Bedwellty Sub-registration district: Aberystruth ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household Members: William Davies 39 LODGER MASON bn Rhondda, Glamorgan Alice Herbert 3 DAU bn Trcharris, Glamorgan Charlotte Herbert 13 DAU bn Staffordshire, England James Herbert 37 HD PITSINKER??? bn Gloucestershire, England James Herbert 11 SON bn Staffordshire, England Lucy Herbert 8 DAU bn Trcharris, Glamorgan Sarah Herbert 34 WI bn Staffordshire, England Sarah A Herbert 8/12 DAU bn Abertylery, Monmouthshire Tom Jones 40 MAR LODGER PITSINKER?? bn Rhondda, Glamorgan James Smith 54 MAR LODGER COALMINER address 2 wooden houses ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1881 MABELS PARENTS Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household Members: Charlotte Herbert 3 SON bn Rowley, Staffordshire James Herbert 24 HD COAL MINER bn Lydney, Gloucestershire James Herbert SON bn Rowley, Staffordshire Sarah Herbert 21 WI bn Rowley, Staffordshire, Thomas Herbert 2 SON bn Rowley, Staffordshire, address garratts lane ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, MARRIAGE OF MABELS PARENTS James Herbert 1876 Jan-Feb-Mar Dudley (To 1912) Staffordshire, Worcestershire AND Sarah Priest 1876 Jan-Feb-Mar Dudley (To 1912) Staffordshire, Worcestershire ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, HOPE THIS HELPS YOU REGARDS DEBS

Thanks Debs I lived at that address from 1943-1970. Michael xx

Hi Debra Could you please look up Mabel Herbert, born c1893 in Abertillery, Monmouthshire (could be classed as Wales or England), in the 1901 census. I would love to know the name of her father, mother and siblings. Thanks for your help, Carolyn.

Hi Debra can you please do a 1901 Hull yorkshire lookup for me. Charles a Robinson b Ireland 1852 wife Emma b Hull 1853. as far as i know there were three children on cencus. Catherine Susan Charles. thank you Barbara.

hi it is possible please for you do go back before census 1891 to find details on a john william millings born 1864 his parents were george and mary born in boston lincolnshire would like to know more about his parents/grandparents many thanks paul

Hi Debra Can you help Im trying to trace parents of Margaret Clayton nee Murphy ,the only info I have is Died in Liverpool June 1934 aged 50 Married to Michael Clayton in Liverpool 1903 Im trying to get her birth cert for more info. Also any info on her mother Jane Murphy DOB 1856 Died in Liverpool Dec 1925 aged 69yrs I dont know where she was born Liverpool/ Ireland? She was married to John Murphy Any info / help I would love you forever , please please please. Thanks

Hi, I am looking for Keziah PYNE/PINE born c1870 around the Sheffield, Barnsley area I believe (definitely that part of Yorkshire) . I really need her parents names to go further in my search. Thank you very much if you can help. Tracey

Hi Looking for census entries for Golding family:- John Joseph b1842 Wisbech Cambridgeshire Hannah b1845 St Ives Huntingdon Annie b1866 St Ives James FH b1867 St Ives Ada b1872 St Ives Arthur b1877 Manchester Mabel b1883 Manchester Maybe some extra children in there somewhere! Thanks very much for your help! Cathy

Hi Deb, Thanks ever so much for all that info. My mum really appreciates it. Catherine Cheers once again for doing that!!

MICHAEL Registration district: Watford Sub-registration district: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Herbert B. Allen 7 James Allen 32 MASTER WATCHMAKER Sophia Allen 34 all born WATFORD HERTS ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1891 Registration district: Watford Sub-registration district: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Herbert R Allen 17 WATCHMAKER James Allen 42 WATCH MAKER Sophia Allen 44 address 29 queens rd ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1901 Registration district: Watford Sub-registration district: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 190 Herbert R Allen 26 JEWELLERS ASSISTANT James Allen 52 WATCHMAKER AND JEWELLER Sophia Allen 54 address 29 queens rd ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, michael is it the address you are partically interested in?? or the ALLEN family ?? please let me know ok regards debs

Hi Debs Congratulations on your new grandchild. Could you see who was living in in 254 High St Watford St Mary in 1901? It was James & Sophia Allen in 1881. Thanks Michael

CATHERINE MAYBE THIS MIGHT HELP ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DAUGHTERS BIRTH ELIZABETH S NORDEN mothers maiden name STERNE bn edmonton ref 3a 1161 O/N/D quarter 1912 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DAUGHTERS BIRTH maybe the I stands for IDA PHYLLIS I NORDEN mothers maiden name STERNE bn Billericay ref 4a 1264 J/F/M quarter 1914 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, SONS BIRTH JAMES W P NORDEN mothers maiden name STERNE bn Billericay ref 4a 1126 O/N/D quarter 1915 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, MARRIAGE James Norden 1905 Jan-Feb-Mar Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex Mary Ann F STERNE 1905 Jan-Feb-Mar Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1901` MARY ANN WITH HER PARENTS Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Household schedule number: 224 Emma Sterne 67 WI bn Stepney, London John Henry Sterne 68 HD WATCHMAN bn Poplar, London MARY ANN FLORENCE STERNE DAU 28 TAILORESS bn Bow, London address st thomas row ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1881 MARY ANN WITH HER PARENTS Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Richard Mc Mahon 47 LODGER ENGINEER bn Poplar, Middlesex Alice Stern 12 DAU bn Homerton, Middlesex Elizth. E. Stern 4 DAU bn Harrow On Hill Emma Stern 26 DAU TAILORESS bn Limehouse, Middlesex, Emma E. Stern 48 WI bn Stepney, Middlesex Florence A. R. Stern 2 DAU bn Limehouse Middlesex John H. Stern 50 HD BUILDERS LAB bn Poplar, Middlesex Joseph F. W. Stern 1 SON bn Stepney, Middlesex Louisa Stern 10 DAU bn Limehouse, Middlesex Maria A. Stern 17 DAU NURSE bn (City), Middlesex MARY A F STERN 9 DAU bn Bow, Middlesex William Stern 19 SON BRICKLAYERS LAB bn Limehouse, Middlesex, address 40 st thomas rd ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1871 MARY ANNS SISTER Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Stoke Newington ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 117 Annie Margaret Laird 5 Ann Sargent Laird 32 Ebenezer Laird 31 Leonel Ebenezer Laird 7 months Sarah Grace Laird 1 Jane Porter 29 Josiah Pone Werner 29 Margaret Laird 5 Ann Sargent Laird 32 EMMA STERN 16 SERVANT NURSE bn limehouse Josiah Pone Werner 29 address 62 albion rd ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1871 MARY ANNS PARENTS Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 157 Fredk Noy 18 LODGER SAWYER bn Kent, England Alice Stern 3 DAU bn Limehouse Enna Stern 37 WI bn Stepney Enna Stern 16 DAU bn Limehouse Jno Stern 13 SON bn Limehouse Jno Hy Stern 39 HD LABOURER bn Poplar Louisa Stern 11 months DAU bn Limehouse Maria Stern 7 DAU bn Limehouse Wm Stern 10 SON bn Limehouse address 5 merchant row ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1861 MARY ANNS PARENTS Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Household schedule number: 280 Emma Stern 27 WI bn Stepney, Middlesex Emma Stern 6 DAU bn Limehouse, Middlesex John Stern 28 HD CARMAN bn Poplar, Middlesex John Stern 3 SON bn Limehouse, Middlesex Mary Stern 4 DAU bn Poplar, Middlesex address marchant row ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, REGARDS DEBS

Hi Deb, Here's some info on James Norden, born 1872, Blacksmith. My mum said he used to have a Blacksmith shop in London. James Norden married a Mary Ann Florence born in 1873 who died 26 March 1935, sorry i dont know her maiden name as my aunt has an old clipping from a local newspaper dated April 5th 1935 with info on the funeral so my aunt and my mum got the info about their nan from that. James and Mary had five daughters and one son their names are Selina Norden born abt 1903 Queenie Norden born abt 1906 Doris Norden born abt 1911 Betty Norden born abt 1912 (name might be Elizabeth) Ida Norden born abt 1913 James William Patrick Norden born 1915 in Billericay, Essex My mum said she was told that the family kept moving, because the blacksmith trade started to die out, they kept having to move to where the work was, one of the areas they lived in was Edmonton. Also on the 1901 cencus you said that james mother was a widow, i dont think she was ever married. Thank you for all your help, its much appreciated. Catherine