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Have found a couple (late 18th centary, Suffolk) with 4 children but now looking for their parents. Have found likely couples but can't be sure. (all from IGI - extracted) I have: Head:- Kingsby Huntley Wife:- Elizabeth Boyce Children:- 1) Kingsby Huntley 2) Edmund Boyce Huntley 3) Thomas Huntley 4) Pheobe Huntley I think the couples Parents are Thomas and Elizabeth. AND Edmund and Pheobe Boyce. If I've got this right I have 1st Son - Father 2nd Son - Mother's Father 3rd Son - Father's Father 1st Dau - Mother's Mother Is this possable or likely??

Anything is possible but this is a passage re. naming patterns copied from a Google search.... The first son was named after the father's father The second son was named after the mother's father The third son was named after the father The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother The first daughter after the mother's mother The second daughter after the father's mother The third daughter after the mother The fourth daughter after the mother's eldest sister Gwyn

NAMING PATTERNS

English Naming Traditions

1st son = father's father
2nd son = mother's father
3rd son = father
4th son = father's 2nd oldest brother or mother's oldest brother
1st daughter = mother's mother
2nd daughter = father's mother
3rd daughter = mother
4th daughter = mother's oldest sister
5th daughter = mother's 2nd oldest sister or father's oldest sister


I understand that Welsh is the same as English

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The Scottish custom is
1st son after father's father
2nd son after mother's father
3rd son after father
The rest ... the postman, the vicar, the milkman, ..., anyone else
they could think of.
1st daughter after mother's mother
2nd daughter after father's mother
3rd daughter after mother,
others ... whatever.

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Irish Naming Traditions

Son after father's father
Second son after mother's father
Third son after father
Fourth son after father's oldest brother
Fifth son after mother's oldest brother

First daughter after mother's mother (or father's mother)
Second daughter after father's mother (or mother's mother)
Third daughter after mother
Fourth daughter after mother's oldest sister
Fifth daughter after father's oldest sister

Lancashire folk followed this tradition too, but beware the odd rich relative/godparent/esteemed employer slipping in there! Naming patterns are a useful clue, not a strict recipe. OC

Am bookmarking for useful info - thanks. Liz

Bumped up for Rosalyn

Nudge

Found for Lesley :-)

This is a seriously old thread...... It even has my real name on it which I no longer want to be visible on GR.

I have now deleted my post, but please be very careful about resurrecting threads which are almost four years old as it can cause problems.

Seriously old, but useful :-)

Thanks Joy. :)

Did the Scottish system also include the mothers maiden name as a middle name too for All the children?

Joan

does anyone know when the naming pattern died out.

very interesting thread by the way.


meercat.

That applies to English certainly, including the Mother's maiden name.

Thank you, Meercat.
The Irish naming pattern was totally ignored by my Irish great-great-uncle. He married in 1885.

my family couldnt do the fathers name pattern bit because they never knew their fathers half the times.

meercat.

That makes life very difficult at times for researchers.

Very useful naming patterns :-)

Thanks, extremely useful, Glad I looked at this post. It helps explain for me why members of the same family, ie brother, sister all called the family with similar names
thanks again. M.

There must have been family arguments about what the naming pattern was:

Marriages Jun 1936 (>99%)
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