Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess, If you're about, could you email me, please? I'd like you to look at a page of the 1851 Census and give me an opinion. Thanks. CB >|< X

as i can't see him or his father, the way to go is to find out mothers name too... Name: Laycock, George Henry Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1897 District: Burnley County: Lancashire West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 8e Page: 272 John Laycock abt 1831 Colne, Lancashire, England Head Burnley Lancashire <too old John Laycock abt 1847 Burnley, Lancashire, England Head Burnley Lancashire < again a bit old John Laycock abt 1865 Burnley, Lancashire, England Head Burnley Lancashire < has just one daug Laura John Laycock abt 1873 Horncliffe, Lancashire, England Head Burnley Lancashire < 1 daug-mary John Laycock abt 1879 Burnley, Lancashire, England Nephew Burnley Lancashire < on his own John Laycock abt 1888 Burnley, Lancashire, England Boarder Burnley Lancashire < only 13

Jess, need a super sleuth on this one. Want to find William Castledine Wyles alive in the1861 otherwise he probably wouldnt have received a pension from Post Office (regulations from 1859) and so no point in me going to their archives. Scarily Ive found a possible death in 1858 (bloody sods law) but I cant find any of the family in the 1861 so am hoping this is just someone with same name. This is the family 1851: 1851: Catherine Wyles abt 1812 Lambeth, Surrey, England Wife Bethnal Green Middlesex Catherine Wyles abt 1849 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter Bethnal Green Middlesex Louisa Wyles abt 1844 Hackney Road, Middlesex, England Daughter Bethnal Green Middlesex Mary Ann Wyles abt 1839 St George East, Middlesex, England Daughter Bethnal Green Middlesex William Wyles abt 1802 Burgh le Marsh, Lincolnshire, England Head Bethnal Green Middlesex In 1871 Mum Catherine (widowed) and youngest daughter Catherine are living together in Brixton. If you can find them 1861 be very grateful.

Hi Jess Thanks for the offer of census lookups, if you get a chance, please could you look on either the 1851 or 1861 census for WILLIAM ROSE(chr 1850) and JOHN ROSE(ch 1846) both christened in Stoke Next Guildford in Surrey. Their mother is Ann, I'm interested to know if a father is living with them. I'd be very grateful....thanks.

Heather not convinced but... William H R Hutchins abt 1832 St Olaves South R, Surrey, England Boarder Stepney Middlesex Catharine Wyles abt 1849 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, England Daughter Stepney Middlesex Catherine Wyles abt 1814 Westminster, Middlesex, England Head Stepney Middlesex Laura Wyles abt 1844 Hackney, Middlesex, England Daughter Stepney Middlesex she is a widow- a fund holder - address is (something ) SQ Source information: RG9/294 Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 56 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 103 GSU Number: 542608

Thanks Jess Have sent for birth cert Susan

looby - any idea when mother ann born - far less Ann's than John's and William's

Thanks Jess, I had seen that one before (a long time back to be honest) but thought as dob, pob is out .......but then she seems to get younger by a few years at will. Mind you, Louisa could have become Laura couldnt she. Fund Holder, maybe has a pension then? Many thanks for trying Jess. I think I will trawl for more deaths of this guy. You think he would have had the decency to hang on a few months til after 1859.

Hi Jess Bum! Sorry, don't even know if Rose is Ann's married name or not. Showing my ignorance of the info on the early census, had hoped that the children could be pinpointed through dob and place of birth. If it helps any, fathers name could be John. If not, thanks so much for checking for me.

Hi Jess if possible can please look up a William john Jones for me, he was born 11/08/1910 in Mountain Ash in Pontypridd in Wales, cant find him on the free bmd on Ancestry.co.uk as this bit is missing, but also need to find his parents names. Kindest Regards Lyn x.

Jess, just looked at that one in Mile End and the image shows the daughters name as Louisa, not Laura as transcription. You know what, I am sure this is them. Thanks for the kick up the butt. Dont know where the Westminster birth place comes from, maybe the transcribers eye wandered back then - as it should be Lambeth or Southwark. But the kids ages and names pretty well clinch it. Hopefully 'Fundholder' does mean she was given some money from the Post Office.

Lyn if you cant find hoim on ancestry. i wont be able to - if its missing its missing! sorry will have a look on 1837 as you know the exact date - sorry, there are just too many - i dont know the geographty well enough

bear with me Looby! 1) Simon John Chapman born 1884 St Austell Cornwall. 2) Edith susan Broad born 1886 Swansea. 3) Violet Annie Rogers born 1897 St Columb Cornwall 4) William Henry Marsters born 1882 St Columb Cornwall on the census as may years as possible. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1)- MAYBE 1891 CENSUS Name: Chapman, Simon J Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where Born: Roche, Cornwall Birth Country: England Civil parish: St Columb Major County/Island: Cornwall --------------------------------------------- 2) choices- which one will determine that it is her? Broad, Edith abt 1880 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Mynyddyslwyn Monmouthshire Source information: RG12/4382 Registration district: Newport Sub registration district: Mynyddyslwyn ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 100 Page: 31 Broad, Edith abt 1884 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter St Woollos Monmouthshire Source information: RG12/4373 Registration district: Newport Sub registration district: Newport ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 82 Page: 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 3)again -choices..what will determin which is the right one? Violet Rogers abt 1887 Falmouth, Cornwall, England Daughter Budock Cornwall Violet Rogers abt 1898 Perranuthnoe, Cornwall, England Daughter Perranuthnoe Cornwall Violet Rogers abt 1893 Redruth, Cornwall, England Daughter Redruth Cornwall Violet Rogers abt 1899 Truro, Cornwall, England Visitor St Clement Cornwall Violet Rogers abt 1895 St Austell, Cornwall, England Daughter Plymouth Devon 4) can you confirm this is the right family - spelled differently 1901 Alice Anne Masters abt 1894 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Daughter St Columb Major Cornwall Bessie Masters abt 1890 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Daughter St Columb Major Cornwall Charles Masters abt 1858 Padstow, Cornwall, England Head St Columb Major Cornwall Charles Masters abt 1898 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Son St Columb Major Cornwall George Masters abt 1894 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Son St Columb Major Cornwall Henry Masters abt 1882 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Son St Columb Major Cornwall John James Masters abt 1888 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Son St Columb Major Cornwall Mary Jane Masters abt 1861 Roche, Cornwall, England Wife St Columb Major Cornwall Samuel Masters abt 1897 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Son St Columb Major Cornwall 1891 Masters, Bessie L abt 1890 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Daughter St Columb Major Cornwall Masters, Gertrude abt 1880 St Breock, Cornwall, England Daughter St Columb Major Cornwall Masters, John J abt 1888 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Son St Columb Major Cornwall Masters, Mary J abt 1855 Roche, Cornwall, England Wife St Columb Major Cornwall Masters, William H abt 1881 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Son St Columb Major Cornwall Source information: RG12/1819 Registration district: St Columb Sub registration district: St Columb ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 49 Page: 19 1881 Charles Masters abt 1860 Padstow, Cornwall, England Head Trekenning Village, St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Gertrude Masters abt 1880 St Breock, Cornwall, England Daughter Trekenning Village, St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Mary Masters abt 1860 Roche, Cornwall, England Wife Trekenning Village, St Columb Major, Cornwall, England 1871 Charles pre marriage Albenia Masters abt 1866 Padstow, Cornwall, England Daughter Little Petherick Cornwall Charles Masters abt 1830 Lanlivery, Cornwall, England Head Little Petherick Cornwall Charles Masters abt 1859 Padstow, Cornwall, England Son Little Petherick Cornwall Elisabeth Masters abt 1869 Padstow, Cornwall, England Daughter Little Petherick Cornwall Henry Masters abt 1863 Padstow, Cornwall, England Son Little Petherick Cornwall Louisa Masters abt 1833 Padstow, Cornwall, England Wife Little Petherick Cornwall

Heather - any time you like , bear your Butt and i'll kick it!! Jess x

hi Jess Not to worry i will have to see what else i can do. many thanks for looking. Regards Lyn.

Blue, struggling ! - where do they fit in the bigger plan?

HI, Jess any chance of tracking down Harry Shevill 30/10/1911died 1990 he's from leeds w yorkshire married nora shevill 1941 her dob 03/09/1910 she died 1992 in leeds born gatesehead t&w, looking for harrys father, any clues would help thanks Geoff.

Geoff- not sure what you mean 'track him down' - have you looked for his birth? July/Aug /Sept Qtr Harry Shevill married GOULDING in Leeds 9b 529 the cert will tell you his fathers name Cross referenced Norah Goulding married Shevill same Qtr same place

I'm as up to date as i can be , if anyone wants

its not a problem blue, its just with the uncertainty with the birth places and such a common name it's not looking good. can only find a birth of a Ruth Emily 1891in sudbury, which is obviously incorrect