Genealogy Chat

Thanks Elaine - I'd already looked at that site, which has been posted on here before. It's a good site, but unfortunately none of the pubs I've been looking for are on it! The site owner offers to find details of pubs and licensees, and I've already e-mailed him about another one, in Shropshire. I'm starting to find so many publicans in my tree that I may have to buy the book about licensed victuallers.

Hi Mary I had a great aunt who had pubs in Leicester when I was younger. I am going to have to ask my uncle for names as he did tell me he used to work for her but I hadn't thought of looking into that yet up to now, still trying to sort out who what when why for all my tree! Elaine

Oops , I was wrong. The 1881 census gives the name of the pub as the Lawyers Arms, but I looked it up in a trade directory, and it turns out to be the Sawyers Arms. It is indeed on the Midlands pub site, and the only licensee listed is my ancestor!

Greeting's Again Ken ' Charny ' as we used to call it in my childhood days We used to say ..... ' You could get anything from an Elephant to a Pin on that Street ' ( Spent most of my pocket money on that street ....lol ) It ran from Spinney Hill Road next Street to Bones Cycle Shop Which had A cobbled alleyway next to it Charny then continued to Needham Street Coming out opposite the School Which was on Upper Charnwood Street. The Charnwood Estate was mostly off to the left hand side of the Humberstone Road.going towards Town Spinney Hill Road, Frank Street, Newby Street, Preston Street. St. Saviour's Road, Shenton Street, Flint Street, Farnham Street, Then came the L.M.S. Railway Bridge & Humberstone Road Station. I did come back from Church today via Constance Road the houses are still as you would remember them... Terraced Unfortunately I had to keep my eyes on the road so not able to get a good look at No. 2. But will have another try soon. MIKE.

Mike If you're going to the Records Office shortly, could I ask you a huge favour of a lookup please? Lou very kindly looked in Loughborough Library at the copies of Shepshed Parish Registers and it's turned out to be a bit of a puzzler. If you've got time to do it, perhaps you could let me know and I'll give you all the details? Many, many thanks! Mandy in Somerset

Have just started on hubby's tree and am researching the following: Shaw - Shepshed Blake - mainly Shepshed but also Blaby and Ibstock Mandy in Somerset

Thanks Mike Your description of the geography got the old brain cells working again! Ken

Greeting's Again Ken ' Your Very Welcome '....... I mean who can ever forget........ ' Paddy's Swag Shop '...? ? MIKE.

Mike Or his stall on Leicester market.

Hi - I wonder if someone could help me please. I have a birth certificate for Ernest Cooper b. 12/7/1892 at 7 court A Burleys lane (St Margarets) Leicester. Father George Cooper mother Hannah Cooper formerly Rowley - so far so good. Why then is he down as Jack Cooper on the 1901 census ? Could he have been baptised Ernest Jack Cooper ? Any help greatly appreciated.

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*** F. A. O. Mary *** Re Ortraymur Smith’s Christening St. Georges’s Church Here is the results of the Parish Registers Fiche No,3D 71. / 18. 2/2. Fiche. Entry No. 2266. Page. 284. 13th. February. 1853. James Ortraymur. Illegitimate Son of Mary Smith of Upper Conduit Street. A line through the Father’s Occupation. A. R. Harrison. Curate. SAWYER’S ARMS Public House No. 102. Lee Street. This stood on the corner of Lee Street / Wharf Street. Lee Street ran Eastwards from Bedford Street to Wharf Street. 1881. Trade Directory. Publican = Joseph Badham. 1886. Trade Directory. Publican. = Mrs Elizabeth Badham. ** F. A. O. Elaine. *** Re Reuben Ward. Marriage St. George’s Parish 1836 ish… I’m Sorry…… No Marriage Registers have survived These start 1853. Also tried the Banns Registers but drew a blank. *** F.A.O. Mandy. *** Re John Blake Parish Register’s Shepshed. Christening. Page. 127. Entry No. 1014. 26th. August.1823. John Son of Mary Blake. Base Born. = Illegitimate. Shepshed John Goodacre. Curate. Interestingly there was another Entry which caught my eye….. Multi Christening’s……. Entry’s No.’s 921.922,293. For 8th. September. 1822. 921.= born 14th. April. 1822. John Son of the said Thomas & Mary Blake. 922. = Sarah born. 1st. march. 1814. Daughter of the said Thomas & Mary Blake. 923. = Robert born 19th. April. 1819. Son of the said Thomas & Mary Blake. Shepshed. Frame Work Knitter. Occupation of Father through out each entry John Goodace. Curate. Checked out John’s Marriage also….. Entry No. 160. 26th. December. 1842. John Blake. Bach. Minor. Frame Work Knitter. Of Moorfields, Shepshed. Mary HILYER. Spinster. Minor. Frame Work Worker. Moorfields. Shepshed. Father James HILYER. F.W.K. Both signed by their own Marks = +’s Witnesses = Joseph King. Sarah HILYER. *** F. A. O. June **** About to recheck out Metcalf Street on the 1841 census Re:- Thomas Hopewell & Elizabeth Ward I did it last night but for the life of me I can't find the details under this mountain of paper ....lol :0)))) MIKE. Hopefully now back to normal service…. UPDATE FOR June = 23.HRS 1841. Census Returns HO 107 / 604. / 596. / Page 5. Metcalf Street. Charles Hopewell 35. Stocking Maker. Mary Wife. 30. Charles. 5. Also within the same Household William Hopewell. 75. Taylor. Mary Wife. 75. All above born within the County 4 Doors down .... John Hopewell. 40. Stocking Maker. born IRELAND. Ann. Wife. 40. John. 10. Eliza. 4.. Also within the same Household .... Charles Lacy . 15. all other than John (Snr) Born within the County. 5 doors down ..... Robert WARD. 55. Stocking Maker. Catherine Wife. 45. born IRELAND. Elizabeth. 20. Worsted Spinner. Robert. 15. Bobbin Turner. George. 13. Ditto. John. 10. Also within the same Household James Whitehead. 4. So didn't find your Thomas or Elizabeth but will now widen the search at lest we found Robert & Catherine

Wow, Mike, you have been busy, that's great! James Ortraymur. Illegitimate Son of Mary Smith of Upper Conduit Street. A line through the Father’s Occupation. A. R. Harrison. Curate. On first reading I thought A.R. Harrison, Curate was the father :-) I take it Mary Smith's dob and parents weren't given? It's very frustrating not knowing who she was, because Ortraymur's such an unusual name I'm sure he must be related to my Ortraymur Brewin. I suppose Ortraymur's dad Francis Brewin could have been the father. He and his wife Virtue were living in Upper Conduit Street at the time of the 1851 census. James was born in 1852, and Ortraymur Brewin in 1853, and Francis and Virtue seem to have separated at some point. Thanks for the confirmation of the licensees of the Sawyers' arms, who were husband and wife. If you have time next time you go, and it isn't asking too much, I'm still interested in details of Ortraymur's Brewin's wife Belle. Hope you got your computer sorted. Mary

Hi Mike Welcome back and hope everything is OK now. Is there actually a disk for St George's? Am hoping you can check a marriage there again for me between Joeseph Lewis and Charlotte Hinks which was 3 Feb1873. Hopefully her father is William. Thank you and great to have you back! ALSO EVERYONE Anyone going to the family history fair in Oadby next week? Have never been to one before Elaine

Hi Mike A HUGE, MASSIVE THANK YOU from me and also from our newly-discovered 3rd cousins in New Zealand for taking the time and trouble to search for our John Blake in the parish records. We are really grateful. Mandy in Somerset & Raewyn in NZ

Greeting's Elaine .. No there is not a disk ...YET. But via the Batch numbers I.G.I. I can confirm that Marriage between Joseph & Charlotte 3rd. Feb. 1773. But no other details ...So. I've put it down in me little book for next weeks visit to Records Office Watch this space...... Re Family History Fairs....? YES I went to the one in Loughborough.... Great day out..... But take your Plastic flexible friend with you and comfortable shoes Mandy .... Thank you for your kind words but you are very welcome That's what this site is all about...... Give my regards to Zummerzet..... MIKE.xx

Have you got any more details on the family history fair in Oadby? I wouldn't mind going

Hi Paula Haven't spoken to you in ages! Details 26th March Parklands Leisure Centre, Wigston Road, Oadby 10.00 till 4.00pm entrance £2.00 Elaine MIKE Thanks for that

Will definately go to Parklands next week. Never been to a family history fair before- what will be there? Paula

Greeting's Again Paula... What's there ? ....... The A.G.M. of the History Society takes place at 11.00 am. Plenty of Book & CD stalls Computer Demonstrations & Help Desk. Two special guest speakers planned for the afternoon 12.00. & 2.30. Get there early to book your seat ..... Light refreshments ..... June ... Me with me feet up reading the Mercury ? Narh..... Trying to breath life into a dead ' C Drive ' then reinstalling programmes is what I was doing..... THEN..... reading the Mercury ...lol :0)))) MIKE.