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NEW BRICKWALL THREAD FOR 'Hard to find rellies'

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Dea

Dea Report 9 Aug 2005 21:02

Alter dearest, Why can't you find MY people ? Seriously, - I am SO glad you can help others but it's SSOOO frustrating !! Dea XXXxxx

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 9 Aug 2005 20:59

Well if I don't try I will kick myself. here goes: can't fnd birth of Charles BATEMAN around 1866-68 in Deptford Kent. Can't find him in 1881 either. Have him in 71, 91 and 01, also have marriage 1888. Would also like to find his dad, William Bateman around 1835 Southwark Middlesex (William's dad was also William). Off to walk the dog.

Hilary

Hilary Report 9 Aug 2005 20:52

Tried before on here but here I go again. One of my brick walls is Mary Ann Thurrell. Father Joseph Thurrell. She was my gt. gt. gran. She married David Baird In Islington in Sept 1851. Had a son in Lambeth in 1853. Died in Islington in 1855. Where the hell was she born. Must be on 1851 census somewhere. Not at same address in Islington as David. Wish someone could help. Hilary. x

GeordieCath

GeordieCath Report 9 Aug 2005 19:06

Hi all, One of my many brick walls is the death of my grandad : ALFRED MCDUFF FORREST HILL born 1898 in wallsend [tynemouth district]. I have trawled through 1837 online for his death but come up with nothing unless i missed it silly me didn't save pages. his youngest child was born 1932 and according to my uncle he died before he came home on leave from the navy in 1947 . so if anyone is looking through 1837 online around the hill surname can you please keep a look out many thanks Cath

The Ego

The Ego Report 9 Aug 2005 18:50

CHLOE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found Margaret as well I think in london 1861. only one resident in her age group in 1861,with that name. No matches for gloucester census justin case she went to fathers area. No marriages in london area or anywhere near for Margaret 1851-1861. Aged 25 ,housemaid 34 Upper Bedford Place,London Piece 166 Folio 15 Pg 27 St george ,Bloomsbury This was the only margaret griffith I could find that fitted.

The Ego

The Ego Report 9 Aug 2005 18:21

CHLOE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have Williams address in London,1861 London.,living with his uncle. BIRD Danuel M 36 Pancras BIRD Lydia M 36 Pancras GRIFFITH William Nephew 26 Pancras Eccles. Dist.=St. Luke Address 5,Smiths Place Piece 118 Folio 68 Pg 37 LONDON 1861 CENSUS

The Ego

The Ego Report 9 Aug 2005 18:08

CHLOE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found your Daniel in 1861. Daniel Griffith Head Widower M 55 born East Dean,Gloucs. Sarah Young servant Widow F 60 Reg . RG09 Piece 1756 Folio 5 page 8 Westbury -on -Severn Eccl. Dist. St. John Parish East dean Address Blakeney Hill His age has been rounded off,as is common in some censi. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- FACT (1) No Daniel griffith resident in censi in London 1861 aged 52-62. FACT(2) There were 21 Daniel griffith resident in censi across the country aged 52-62. Of these ONLY TWO WERE WIDOWERS,and the one I have discounted is a man who is living with his 2 old brothers and 88 year old father. FACT (3) none of the Daniels was recorded as born bristol. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- His children will have grown up by this time,making their way in London.Going back to his roots is not unexpected.

The Ego

The Ego Report 9 Aug 2005 17:09

ANNIE IN ESSEX>>>>>>>>>>>> Susan morgan mystery............... you say shes missing from 1891 and 1901 census liverpool.... 1. 1891 census liverpool is not reliable,many are missing. 2.nobody with the name susan morgan died 1882-1902 in liverpool. 3.There are 2 marriages however in the peiod 1885-1905 for a susan morgan in liverpool.being widowed,very possible she got lonely!! these might be the answer......... Dec 1885 Susan Morgan West derby 8b 854 Mar 1886 susan morgan liverpool 8b 2(14)5

Chloe

Chloe Report 9 Aug 2005 16:54

looking for DANIEL GRIFFITH born c.1803/1804 in bristol,in 1851 census is in holborn area of london,widowed,with children,charlotte aged 17 born city of london ,william aged16 born city of london and margaret aged 12 born lambeth. daniel died 1871 before census date,know where william was 1871,but where was the famiily in 1861 and what happened to the girls?

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥ Report 9 Aug 2005 15:00

Hello What a great thread! My brick wall has been on before and I was very grateful for the help, but maybe this time I will have more luck. I can't find the birth of Thomas Parsons born 1818 Cork Ireland. He was in England from at least Nov 1841 when he married Sarah Biggs. According to the marriage certificate his father, Charles, was deceased and the witnesses names are none that I recognise. Kind fellow GR members found him in the 1841 census' onwards to 1881. Any help finding his birth would really be appreciated. Kathy

Sophie

Sophie Report 5 Jul 2005 14:55

Hi, i am looking for Marion Josaphine Murphy born in Ireland approx 1875 had children Hugh Patrick Murphy 1904 Fulham and Mary Magarita Graham 1909 Wimbledon her name changes to Mary Anne Graham formerly Beglin on Mary Margaritas Birth cert. Mary Anne Graham died in 1956 in sheffield. I have no clue where to start. I Don't know where abouts in Ireland she was born although the places garadice, meath, kildare and kilcock have beeen found on a scrap of paper when her daughter died along with the names John and Bridget. She spoke gaelic. Not alot of hope for me is there? Sophie x

Patricia

Patricia Report 5 Jul 2005 14:44

My brickwall is trying to find Miles Haley whose wife was Mary Finn, no other information on either of them. They had a son Charles Haley born 28.6.1881 in Endell Street Workhouse. Father Miles was a costermonger. As the census was taken in April I should be able to find Miles and Mary in 1881. Their son Charles went on to marry my grandmothers sister in 1901 when he said his father Miles was deceased. Any help appreciated. Pat.

Cliff

Cliff Report 17 May 2005 22:35

Trying to get a hook into: ELIZABETH CUTTS born c.1886 - died 13.01.1967. Married twice to (1) Robert? LINDLEY and by 1915 to (2) Robert BOWERS. Lived in North Nottinghamshire most of her life but MAY have originated from South Yorkshire. Any pointers where to start looking ? All suggestions gratefully received. Cliff

Julie

Julie Report 17 May 2005 22:10

here goes, appologies to those who have heard it all before!! Looking for JOSEPH BEAUMONT birth 1857/8 Manchester. Ive found him in 1881/91/01 living in Liverpool, his occupation is a Publican, and his death in 1911. Ive also got his marriage in 1875 Liverpool to Clara Hill. My problem is cant find him 1871/61 or find any birth ref for him. His fathers name is also Joseph Beaumont Occ: Commerical traveller, he is deceased by 1875. Im tearing my hair out with him as i can't go back further till i find details of parents marriage. Jules

Jan.jan

Jan.jan Report 17 May 2005 20:49

Message for Smiley Sammy. Iv'e E.Mailed you with some Bessants.

Liberty64

Liberty64 Report 17 May 2005 19:38

nudge for Jan and Smiley

Sheila

Sheila Report 17 May 2005 18:23

William Goadby and his brother Joseph Goadby born Leicester 1871 and 1873 respectively. I have them on the 1891 and 1901 censuses, but not on the 1881. Their mother, Ann Goadby (nee Bodycote - later Smith and Riley) is also missing from the 1881 but their sister Sarah Ann Goadby is on the 1871 with her parents, 1881 with relatives, and 1891 and 1901 with her husband Harry Moir and their children. I've even tried the workhouse, but they aren't there either. Any ideas anyone? Sheila

Karen in the desert

Karen in the desert Report 17 May 2005 18:22

This thread is a good idea....I've been up against my brickwall for years. However if someone out there is looking for a challenge, and I mean a challenge - and you manage to shed ANY light on this puzzle, well...I'll love you forever!!!! John Samuel MITCHELL. Born c1897, no birth or death record England & Wales. His father was Peter MITCHELL, family rumour says possible Irish / Scottish / Canadian connection (Winnipeg). John Samuel MITCHELL married Mary Ethel Mills Whittlesey on 17 October 1920 in Marylebone, London. They lived at 4 Hereford St, Marylebone. I have their marriage cert. It says he was a postman - but London Postal archives have no record of him. They had one son, Raymond Mitchell in 1927 (my father). John Samuel Mitchell disappeared in 1934.

Jenny

Jenny Report 17 May 2005 17:33

Hello, My two problems or two main problems are: Mary Theresa Fitzgerald was supposed to marry a scottish Army Officer Captain Bernard Cochrane 1851-1855. Have searched 1837 online plus local parish records for marriage.No luck! Their first child Hannah Cochrane shows on census as being born in Woolwich,Kent 1852-1853. Searched 1837 online & local parish records for her birth again Nothing!!! Mary is shown as unmarried on 1851 census Greenwich,Kent age 23 born Ireland Mary Fitzgerald (maiden name). Cant find her or him on 1861 census or any of their children. 1871 1881 1891 Have her and her children always living in St Pauls,Deptford. I cant get back any further without a location in Ireland for her only info is she came from county Cork. Same with him I know he died in Crimean war but no location for Scotland so two dead ends!!! If anyone can help I would be over the moon! Jenny

Sally

Sally Report 17 May 2005 16:44

hello all -completely stuck on this one: William Cooper, born c1847 Bishop Auckland, on 1901 he appears, married to a Jane born 1855, Stockton, Durham. By the time of one of his daughters' marriage in 1915 he had died. He worked at the gas mains. I just cannot find him anywhere previous to 1901, but I know that (presumably after his marriage, as they both come from Durham) he moved to Yorkshire, probably the Bramley area. Sally